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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-30-2018, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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Battery replacement

Does anyone know at what point of degradration of the soc on the battery that Kia will replace it. Honda will replace theirs when it will only take a 66% soc.
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-30-2018, 02:19 PM
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Not sure what threshold Kia has set for the PHEV's/EV's. But considering the 8 year warranty that the battery comes with, its not something that any new owners need to worry about. I think typically you'd only see a loss of a couple percent a year.
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Not sure what threshold Kia has set for the PHEV's/EV's. But considering the 8 year warranty that the battery comes with, its not something that any new owners need to worry about. I think typically you'd only see a loss of a couple percent a year.
10 years in US.

WARRANTY
10 Year/100,000 Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty
10 Year/100,000 Mile Limited Battery Warranty
5 Year/60,000 Mile Limited Basic Warranty
5 Year/60,000 Mile Roadside Assistance
*Ask dealer for details

I'm expecting that in 10 yrs there will be new/improved (higher capacity and/or lower cost) battery technology available to upgrade the battery.

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I know they will replace it. I was just wondering if it would be when it drops to a 20 mile chg. or a 10 mile chg. Big difference.
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And I don't anticipate it being a problem I was just curious.
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Neither Hyundai or Kia has stated any warranty for SOC. Normal wear and tear is not covered, but normal is not defined for battery degradation. But the algorithm is so strong, I'd be surprised if the battery degrades more than 15% over 100,000 miles. By the way the same statement applies to the Hyundai "lifetime" battery warranty.

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10 years in US.

WARRANTY
10 Year/100,000 Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty
10 Year/100,000 Mile Limited Battery Warranty
5 Year/60,000 Mile Limited Basic Warranty
5 Year/60,000 Mile Roadside Assistance
*Ask dealer for details

I'm expecting that in 10 yrs there will be new/improved (higher capacity and/or lower cost) battery technology available to upgrade the battery.
also, the battery in the phev is free given the Fed tax credit. Getting the phev was a nobrainer for me. With the phev I have applied for a 3.5c kWh off peak rate (normal 12~15c). Local car miles and home ac maybecome supper cheap.

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I would be more than thrilled at 15% .
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Federal law requires a minimum of 100,000 miles/8 years..........NYS here where I am follows California emission standards (and many other Northeastern states do as well as well as Northwestern states), those minimums are 150,000 miles/10 years.......... Hyundai is lifetime original owner hybrid battery warranty, but NOT Kia (not sure why? same company kinda sorta??) however both Kia and Hyundai lithium ion polymer batteries do NOT require replacement of the entire battery, weak individual cells can be replaced........ word of advice,,,,,,,, when it comes time to replace the 12v lithium ion battery expect to pay about $350.00 ......... I have a co-worker that had one die in a 2014 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid and dealer quoted $350.00..............however both Autozone & Advanced Auto parts have a "suitable replacement" for around $125.00 .......... I think in her Sonata it could have been installed by nearly anyone as it is located in the rear of the car.....and looks much like a typical 12v lead acid battery,,,,,,,,,,,,,,however with the Kia Niro and Hyundai Ioniq, the 12v lithium ion battery is contained in the same housing as the 240v hybrid battery, under the rear seat.........not a good idea to try replacing that as a Sunday project, better left to the dealer.
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Different brands have different marketing. Just the way business works. But the battery warranties are effectively similar in covering battery failure, versus degradation. If a battery is going to fail, it will do so long before 100,000 miles. "Lifetime" warranty is just a gimmick having no legal meaning. Marketing.

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