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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-31-2018, 01:10 AM
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Hah. Serves me right. I didn't know anything about the non plug-in trims.

And you're right about efficiency, the FE trim has better MPG numbers. Certainly seems like a good thing to consider removing if you aren't using them.

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The FE gets better efficiency ratings for two reasons. The lack of roof rails is the real efficiency gain. The other one is that it weighs slightly less than the LX model. The EPA has weight groups and even shedding one pound that puts you in a lower bracket improves your mpg rating. That accounts for the extreme weight reduction steps Hyundai did in the US market for their Ioniq Blue model to get the highest EPA ratings of any car, including Prius.

Weight certainly has an impact on fuel economy but 50 pounds doesn't matter as much as aero. I'm getting considerably above the EPA rating for the FE, never mind my model LX rating. Of course, driving style plays a large role. I also removed some weight - about 45 pounds net from the rails and rear seats after building a new load floor. More importantly, one more aero mod: removed passenger side outside mirror.

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The FE gets better efficiency ratings for two reasons. The lack of roof rails is the real efficiency gain. The other one is that it weighs slightly less than the LX model. The EPA has weight groups and even shedding one pound that puts you in a lower bracket improves your mpg rating. That accounts for the extreme weight reduction steps Hyundai did in the US market for their Ioniq Blue model to get the highest EPA ratings of any car, including Prius.

So are you saying that I need to go on a diet so I can get better fuel economy. Probaby should walk everywhere rather than getting in the car so I can shed the lbs for the sake of mpg's. THANKS!
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Keep your acceleration slow, avoid hills (say move to Florida), eat all you want!

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What? and give up my free health care -AND- have to deal with Trump. No Thanks.

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Trump is far too busy being president to visit his golf course in Florida. Try to keep up on the news. Maybe after he has taken away everyone's health care he'll have time.

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Didn’t know this was a political forum 🏼
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Didnít know this was a political forum 🏼
I guess you could say this thread has gone... Off the rails
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is that 10mm bolt under the cutout on top of the rail? just one?
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I guess you could say this thread has gone... Off the rails
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