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post #31 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-26-2019, 09:17 PM
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Thanks guys I really appreciate your help. I'm beginning to think the outlet I'm using is relatively safe, certainly at 8 amps and maybe 12. Really anxious to get home and have a closer look.
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Does anyone know if the trickle charger is 240V capable?

I have a older KIA Soul trickle charger (the one without the fancy displays)....while it has a standard 120V plug (5-15?) on it, it IS 240V capable (I use an adapter cable labelled for 'special 240V use only')...

Does anyone know if hte new 'fancy graphics and blinking displays/adjustable amperage' model that comes with the 2019 Niro PHEV can ALSO do 240V?

It would be nice to go to 2.8KWh charging (3 1/4 hour charging) instead of the 1.4KWh 120V charging....

(While waiting to clean the garage out enough to wire up a 40A circuit for the 240V/30A L2 charger....which will be throttled to 3.3KWh by the Niro PHEV anyway...)
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I have a older KIA Soul trickle charger (the one without the fancy displays)....while it has a standard 120V plug (5-15?) on it, it IS 240V capable (I use an adapter cable labelled for 'special 240V use only')...

Does anyone know if hte new 'fancy graphics and blinking displays/adjustable amperage' model that comes with the 2019 Niro PHEV can ALSO do 240V?

It would be nice to go to 2.8KWh charging (3 1/4 hour charging) instead of the 1.4KWh 120V charging....

(While waiting to clean the garage out enough to wire up a 40A circuit for the 240V/30A L2 charger....which will be throttled to 3.3KWh by the Niro PHEV anyway...)
I've wondered the same thing. Since you already have an adapter cable would you be willing to risk taking one for the team and give it a try?😉

I do need to point out a warning on the cable against trying such a thing.

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I believe some has said the North American L1 chargers that come with the car do not support 220v. And yeah, for a Niro PHEV, a 16 amp EVSE is all that's needed, so a 220v/20a circuit is all that's necessary. I have a 50 amp circuit simply because it was already there, and I'm ready if (when) I move to an EV.

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One of the dangers of using a 120VAC rated EVSE on 240VAC is that the over-voltage surge protection components are often rated for lower voltage on 120V devices. The EVSE may work OK initially but fail after a month or two of high voltage use. Until someone checks the voltage ratings of the components, I would not use the L1 unit on 240VAC in an area where it could start a fire.
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One of the dangers of using a 120VAC rated EVSE on 240VAC is that the over-voltage surge protection components are often rated for lower voltage on 120V devices. The EVSE may work OK initially but fail after a month or two of high voltage use. Until someone checks the voltage ratings of the components, I would not use the L1 unit on 240VAC in an area where it could start a fire.
good point well taken.

However, some evse circuit diagrams I've seen just pass the neutral from the outlet to the car. nothing in the cord circuits touch it. Thus going from L1 to L2, the neutral is just changed from gnd potential to 120v in the opposite phase of the L1 hot wire. The car sees the change and knows how to use it (it's just L2) The evse Components see no change at all.

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