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post #101 of 108 (permalink) Old 04-13-2019, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
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04-09-2019 at 24,572 Miles for 433 Miles traveled used 9.808 gallon at $2.449 at Circle K in Valdosta, GA. That comes out 44.15 MPG.

(NOTE: All but estimated 20 miles was HWY and mostly Interstate at 70 +/- a few MPH).

Our Fuelly Average had been dropping from AVE around 51 MPG for 20,298 miles of use.

Typically the few HWY and Interstate trips we have been on have been higher that that 44.09 MPG by as much as 3 or 5 MPG (as I remember). I suggest a combination of Interstate Speed driving and the last computer update which has shown a drop of 2 or 3 MPG from previous averages.

Not a typical use this period as we did a trip from TN (Knoxville area to The Villages in FL). We filled up at Valodsta GA going and coming as found some $2.449 gas VS typical near $2.55 / $2.60 at other sources than Circle K. It was mostly an Interstate and some Hwy driving trip.

It is an EX Model with the option that includes the Sunroof purchased in Feb 2017.


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Data from new 2019 Kia Niro LX w/ Adv. Tech. Pkg., as well as my 2010 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom.

I may add my (old, retired) Soul’s data when I get a chance for comparison purposes.

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37 mpg on the Vulcan? Shades of my old 1977 BMW R100RS. My current Honda NC700X lifetime mpg is over 79 mpg. Much better than my Niro at 52 mpg.

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04-09-2019 at 24,572 Miles for 433 Miles traveled used 9.808 gallon at $2.449 at Circle K in Valdosta, GA. That comes out 44.15 MPG.

(NOTE: All but estimated 20 miles was HWY and mostly Interstate at 70 +/- a few MPH).

Our Fuelly Average had been dropping from AVE around 51 MPG for 20,298 miles of use.

Typically the few HWY and Interstate trips we have been on have been higher that that 44.09 MPG by as much as 3 or 5 MPG (as I remember). I suggest a combination of Interstate Speed driving and the last computer update which has shown a drop of 2 or 3 MPG from previous averages.

Not a typical use this period as we did a trip from TN (Knoxville area to The Villages in FL). We filled up at Valodsta GA going and coming as found some $2.449 gas VS typical near $2.55 / $2.60 at other sources than Circle K. It was mostly an Interstate and some Hwy driving trip.

It is an EX Model with the option that includes the Sunroof purchased in Feb 2017.

When your fuel economy first dropped, it was December (or was it January?), and it was after a visit to the dealer, and it was after the dealer applied software updates (that many on this forum have suspected might be adversely impacting their fuel economy).


At any rate, there are several possible factors that might have been the cause, with temperature being the most likely. But if you're now driving in warmer temps and not seeing a return to previous performance, then I'd like to suggest another possibility that might not have been considered. Many of us received our Niros from the dealer with the tires inflated over spec. I think most who have discussed this found that theirs were above 42 pounds cold. On my one-and-only visit to the dealer, they noted that they adjusted my tire pressure to spec (I don't recall for certain, but I think that's 36 pounds). Higher inflation pressure is likely to improve your gas mileage a bit, but it might also compromise your stopping ability. So what I'm suggesting is that you review your receipt from your December visit to the dealer to see if they mentioned that they adjusted the tire pressure, also purchase (if necessary) a tire gauge and measure the pressure directly with that, and then compare your observations from the gauge with the readout from the console. If there's a discrepancy, I'd be tempted to purchase a second gauge and take a third set of measurements and then look for the two sources of values that are most closely aligned, because most tire-pressure gauges are cheap, and most TPMS monitoring sensors are of questionably accuracy.



But the bottom line is, if you are currently at 36 psi and you were previously at 42 psi, I would consider that to be the most likely explanation for your change in fuel economy.

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37 mpg on the Vulcan? Shades of my old 1977 BMW R100RS. My current Honda NC700X lifetime mpg is over 79 mpg. Much better than my Niro at 52 mpg.
I was riding a GSX-R600 until my back couldn’t take it. I run the Vulcan a little fast sometimes. Probably why mpg are a bit low.
I also participate in various rides including veteran, military, funeral escorts... inherently some extra revving & idle time (especially @ shows).

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Our Fuelly Average had been dropping from AVE around 51 MPG for 20,298 miles of use, I thought due to the Computer Upgrade when I saw a drop from history.

However, this fill-up with 773 miles total at 15.065 gallon yields 51.3 MPG.

LOL --- I know the tank does not hold 15.065 gallon, the story is I added 5.08 gallon at a stop after 480 miles on 04-11-2019 and then filled up with another 9.985 gallon at the 773 mile point today, 04-27-2019.

Driving this fill up is described as roughly: Interstate at say 72 MPH for 260 miles except for one traffic jam at 2 to 5 MPH for 30 or so minutes (that 260 miles from Valdosta, GA to my son's home in Sugar hill, GA); Then 29 miles on county and city roads near his home; Then about 195 miles of normal HWY and County roads to our home in TN; Then about 300 local at home (usual some county and some town driving).

AMAZED at 51.3 MPG considering the Interstate and Hwy driving when previous miles of mostly interstate had been more like 43MPG (the previous two Fuelly Fill Ups on the trip to FL and back to Valdosta, GA).

So, my conclusion about the Computer Upgrade reducing miles as was indicated is now in question?????

It is an EX Model with the option that includes the Sunroof purchased in Feb 2017.


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Kind of off topic with MC MPG vs NIRO, but since it was brought up:

My Suzuki Burgman 400 Scooter is around 60MPG (it is geared up a little with weights changed to 19GM). My Honda CB500X is around 70MPG.

My friend's NC700X is around 80MPG.

I use them every chance I get (about 20,000 miles annually, last year dropped to 17,000 miles).


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Another fill-up posted on FUELLY today (5-18-19) was at 25,850 miles for 505 Miles and 9.597 Gallon = 52.6 MPG. Typical use this period which for us is mostly county roads at 35 to 55MPH and some city driving (say 30%) with a few stoplights and some traffic.

So, I am beginning to think that the COMPUTER UPGRADE (12-19-2018) did not cause what I thought (by MPG data Miles divided by gallons) had caused a 3 or 4 MPG drop in MPG from my average of 51 MPG for 20,298 miles (when the computer upgrade was done).

Apparently it was something else, maybe temperatures (basically a mild winter during the period of the MPG drop), tire pressure (could have been maybe 2 PSI variation), or I DON'T KNOW.

Anyway, the last 2 fill ups (one for 773 miles @ 51.3MPG and this one for 505 miles for 52.6MPG) are better than expected and a bit above my average of 51MPG before the computer upgrade at 20,298 miles.

By The Way - it is a EX with the upgrade (includes the dumb sunroof) and bought in Feb 2-017 (first one on the dealers lot).


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