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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-20-2018, 12:05 AM Thread Starter
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Rage inducing headlights

My wife and I are really enjoying our new '18 Niro PHEV EX Premium. However as the nights get longer, our commute has started to require headlights for the final 15-miles (in a month it'll be the whole commute).

For the past few weeks we've counted how many times people have flashed their high beams at us (we average 6 people per night over the last 3-weeks). This evening though, while my wife was driving home a driver who we were behind pulled up next to us and was not happy, not at all. Definitely rattled my wife, heck he rattled me too.

The "low" beams are the brightest I've ever had in a vehicle that I've owned. So far it appears when toggling the high beams all it really appears to do is increase the effective light transmission above the low beams. The intensity of the low beams don't appear to change, if they do it's minimal.

We haven't reached out to Kia, yet, it's on my agenda for tomorrow.

Anyone else experience this? Anyway to deal with it? Is there a "low-low" beam setting I'm missing?
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My wife and I are really enjoying our new '18 Niro PHEV EX Premium. However as the nights get longer, our commute has started to require headlights for the final 15-miles (in a month it'll be the whole commute).

For the past few weeks we've counted how many times people have flashed their high beams at us (we average 6 people per night over the last 3-weeks). This evening though, while my wife was driving home a driver who we were behind pulled up next to us and was not happy, not at all. Definitely rattled my wife, heck he rattled me too.

The "low" beams are the brightest I've ever had in a vehicle that I've owned. So far it appears when toggling the high beams all it really appears to do is increase the effective light transmission above the low beams. The intensity of the low beams don't appear to change, if they do it's minimal.

We haven't reached out to Kia, yet, it's on my agenda for tomorrow.

Anyone else experience this? Anyway to deal with it? Is there a "low-low" beam setting I'm missing?

lights can be adjusted down if you like.

Nobody is flashing us.
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post #3 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-20-2018, 07:24 AM
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My wife and I are really enjoying our new '18 Niro PHEV EX Premium. However as the nights get longer, our commute has started to require headlights for the final 15-miles (in a month it'll be the whole commute).

For the past few weeks we've counted how many times people have flashed their high beams at us (we average 6 people per night over the last 3-weeks). This evening though, while my wife was driving home a driver who we were behind pulled up next to us and was not happy, not at all. Definitely rattled my wife, heck he rattled me too.

The "low" beams are the brightest I've ever had in a vehicle that I've owned. So far it appears when toggling the high beams all it really appears to do is increase the effective light transmission above the low beams. The intensity of the low beams don't appear to change, if they do it's minimal.

We haven't reached out to Kia, yet, it's on my agenda for tomorrow.

Anyone else experience this? Anyway to deal with it? Is there a "low-low" beam setting I'm missing?
The LED headlights are definitely bright, brighter than the HIDs on my 2010 Golf TDI which was the previous leader. I've not had anyone flash their brights at us at night, although I've noticed that when I'm driving ahead of the Niro the lights are kind of obnoxious in the rear view. Minor quibble obviously.

I agree with charlesH, if you are bothered by it, take it to the dealer and see if they'll adjust them lower for you. Your's might be a touch high.

Or the people in your area are just really sensitive about it.

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Not much night driving yet, but I get that in my 2015 Ford Fusion. It's one of those danged if you do/don't things for the auto makers. These days they are getting dinged on safety ratings if their headlights aren't insanely bright. I think that's in the Europe standard. Can't remember if it's US too.
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I drove our 2018 Niro PHEV with the LED headlights for about 30 minutes the other night, and got flashed three times. I will be adjusting them lower this weekend. On a side-note, we had another 2018 Niro PHEV that was totaled a couple months ago, and it had HID headlights that didn't have an issue.
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A safety rating agency thinks those lights enhance safety. They may not consider gunshot wounds in the safety ratings.
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Good point.
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I adjusted the lights on my Niro Touring after a number of flashes.....easy to do, I put a little dab of white finger nail polish on the adjuster and just turned it a couple of notches the direction indicated on the assembly.
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My wife and I are really enjoying our new '18 Niro PHEV EX Premium. However as the nights get longer, our commute has started to require headlights for the final 15-miles (in a month it'll be the whole commute).

For the past few weeks we've counted how many times people have flashed their high beams at us (we average 6 people per night over the last 3-weeks). This evening though, while my wife was driving home a driver who we were behind pulled up next to us and was not happy, not at all. Definitely rattled my wife, heck he rattled me too.

The "low" beams are the brightest I've ever had in a vehicle that I've owned. So far it appears when toggling the high beams all it really appears to do is increase the effective light transmission above the low beams. The intensity of the low beams don't appear to change, if they do it's minimal.

We haven't reached out to Kia, yet, it's on my agenda for tomorrow.

Anyone else experience this? Anyway to deal with it? Is there a "low-low" beam setting I'm missing?
Your beams are just aimed high. Mine were too when I took delivery. The tech took ten minutes adjusted them to the proper height and life was good. Just go back to your dealership. The lights should be at 31.75" high at 25'.
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I was also getting flashed with my PHEV EX Premium. I adjusted the headlight aim so that the beam cutoff at the TOP of the hotspot is now parallel to the ground. It was originally adjusted so the CENTER of the hotspot was parallel to the ground. I also then raised the fog light aim so that the TOP of the beam cut off is now also parallel to the ground. Now the foglights fill in the blank areas left by the headlights. The adjustment screw for the fog light is in a hole under the front of the fog lights. Found the difference in color temperature between the halogen fogs and LED headlights distracting, so replaced the fog lights bulbs with BeamTech LED, CSP H11 equivalents. Fog light is now slightly cooler in color compared with headlights, not a perfect match, but acceptable. I self checked and now no more glare and no longer getting flashed.
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