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post #21 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-14-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by morestuff View Post
Yes, a cellular connection is not free, but it is cheap now days for bulk contracts for IOT style devices.
Not free, but very, very cheap. So trivial that it would be a complete rounding error on Kia's books, and so trivial that they give it away for several years.

We are probably talking about a max of a couple hundred kB at best monthly per car, and likely a lot less.

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post #22 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-14-2019, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnxyz View Post
What you are saying about it costing some fee for communication makes sense.

I have a question for you, I know about cars but not so much about wireless communication.

Do these cars have a modem type of device in them? Can they be used as hotspots for jumping on the internet? I apologize ahead of time if these are foolish questions. I don't understand how they communicate wirelessly with smartphones etc.
Yes, they have some sort of 4G/LTE cellular modem, although I don't know which carrier they use. Most likely AT&T, T-Mobile, or Verizon. But no, they don't offer a hotspot, as others do. The hardware to offer a WiFI hotspot probably isn't contained in the cellular modem, but maybe they do and it's something that Kia could enable (for a fee, of course). My daughter's Pacifica PHEV has a hotspot that works great for the kids to use their iPads while driving, assuming they aren't watching something on the built-in screens. I believe they pay $10 per month for some amount of data (I don't know how much), but I don't think they've ever exceeded the monthly limit.

Using the cellular connection in the car, it connects to servers maintained by Kia (or a 3rd party that Kia pays), and those servers maintain the logs for each car. With the app on our cell phone, we connect to those same servers and retrieve our specific car's data. So the app doesn't talk directly to the car. It goes through the servers, which relay the information between the two. Same with any commands we send via the app (unlock doors, reheat/cool the interior).
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