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Hi, I just got a 2019 Niro LX with Adv Tech pkg. I swapped out the headlights, fog lights, license plate lights, back-up/reverse lights, and all interior lights with LEDs. I’m now getting warnings for the drivers fog light and the passengers headlight. I ran a CANBUS module in the drivers headlight and passenger headlight. Could be a faulty CANBUS? Could need a CANBUS on fog AND headlight??

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2019 Kia Niro LX w/ Adv. Tech. Pkg, deep cerulean
KIA Accessories: Hood Deflector, Window Visors, All-Weather Floor Mats, Cargo Cover, Cargo Net, Rear Bumper Applique.
Bulbs Swapped (LED): ALL interior (white), Back-Up/Reverse (White), Fog lights (6000K White), Headlights (6000K White)
Other Accessories & Mods: K&N Air Filter, Generic Crossbars, F/R Dashcam
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While the "yellow" vs the "white" is esthetically deficient to some, there is good reason for that combination. The difference is see vs be seen. The more yellow color is reflected off objects as well as the whiter light making it effective at seeing ahead. At the same time, the "yellow" is far less dazzling to oncoming drivers. The whiter light tends to dazzle oncoming drivers so it is better at being seen as in daylight running lights.

France until the '90s mandated a truly yellow headlight. They didn't dazzle at all. Looking at oncoming traffic was pleasant even to old eyes. You would think they wouldn't light the road but they did very well.

The trend today is toward the whiter, even blue lights. The white, if full spectrum, illuminates well, particularly the white road markings (or a white garage door as is often used demonstrating how good they are). The problem is that the blue component dazzles oncoming drivers more than illuminating the road.

The blue looking lights actually eliminate parts of the spectrum that illuminate the road in favor of the part that dazzles oncoming drivers and are actually dangerous.

A driver's knowledge of lighting is inversely proportional to how blue his headlights are.

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply.

All to say the move toward whiter lights may not improve anything but esthetics.
Agree this trend to higher color temp is BAD (and dumb). I actually hope it is regulated soon, even though I'm not pro-regulate-everything. The smaller wavelengths scatter more, causing glare, this is physics. It's also the reason why marine instrument lights are traditionally red. You can look at them and then outside the boat at night and still see.

That said, I'd like something brighter than the halogens, but it seem the reputable manufactures like Phillips are no longer selling LEDs. Ideally it'd be a 3,000K LED, but that may not be made.
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While the "yellow" vs the "white" is esthetically deficient to some, there is good reason for that combination. The difference is see vs be seen. The more yellow color is reflected off objects as well as the whiter light making it effective at seeing ahead. At the same time, the "yellow" is far less dazzling to oncoming drivers. The whiter light tends to dazzle oncoming drivers so it is better at being seen as in daylight running lights.

France until the '90s mandated a truly yellow headlight. They didn't dazzle at all. Looking at oncoming traffic was pleasant even to old eyes. You would think they wouldn't light the road but they did very well.

The trend today is toward the whiter, even blue lights. The white, if full spectrum, illuminates well, particularly the white road markings (or a white garage door as is often used demonstrating how good they are). The problem is that the blue component dazzles oncoming drivers more than illuminating the road.

The blue looking lights actually eliminate parts of the spectrum that illuminate the road in favor of the part that dazzles oncoming drivers and are actually dangerous.

A driver's knowledge of lighting is inversely proportional to how blue his headlights are.

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply.

All to say the move toward whiter lights may not improve anything but esthetics.
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Hi, I just got a 2019 Niro LX with Adv Tech pkg. I swapped out the headlights, fog lights, license plate lights, back-up/reverse lights, and all interior lights with LEDs. I’m now getting warnings for the drivers fog light and the passengers headlight. I ran a CANBUS module in the drivers headlight and passenger headlight. Could be a faulty CANBUS? Could need a CANBUS on fog AND headlight??
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Agree this trend to higher color temp is BAD (and dumb). I actually hope it is regulated soon, even though I'm not pro-regulate-everything. The smaller wavelengths scatter more, causing glare, this is physics. It's also the reason why marine instrument lights are traditionally red. You can look at them and then outside the boat at night and still see.

That said, I'd like something brighter than the halogens, but it seem the reputable manufactures like Phillips are no longer selling LEDs. Ideally it'd be a 3,000K LED, but that may not be made.

The reason the French used yellow lights had nothing to do with their efficacy. It was to prevent friendly fire in war.

I actually see far better with the whiter light. I am color blind and have some eye issues that let me have a prescription for tinted windows on my car. The whiter light makes certain things jump out at me more and I feel safer with them.

I am an armature astronomer and we use red flashlights when we have get togethers because that color does not affect our night vision. The problem with human night vision is it is not as acute as our daytime vision.
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