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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-31-2019, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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New to Niro, but not to Plug-ins!

New 2019 EX plug-in owner. Was a Prius owner for 13years and one of those was a plug-in.

I see posts here about mileage and just wanted to offer up some mileage managing strategies for anyone who is considering or may be new to the plug-in vehicle world.

The Niro is pretty weak from a dead stop if operating in hybrid mode. I try and always use electric only off the line and then switch to hybrid mode around 30mph or so. Takes some practice to remember but helps the overall experience alot. This technique combined with the coasting driving style (a must for hybrids with regenerative braking) and I am getting a combined average of 60mpg on my daily commute of 150miles round trip.

This means that the 558 combined range distance when i bought the car has now been extended to 583 miles combined range just by practicing this driving style.

the hybrid system on the Niro is actually pretty good overall and the regen technology has come a long way from when i purchased my 2012 plug-in prius. You can now recoup or at least maintain most of the electricity used which helps extend your range overall.

Just loving the car and wanting to throw in my two cents on some techniques to get the most out of the driving experience.

If any KIA or Niro developers are reading this, It would be AWESOME if there was a default feature to switch to electric only at every stop and then automatically kick on the engine at 30mph. This would remove the humans needing to remember issue and maximize this great little car!
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New 2019 EX plug-in owner. Was a Prius owner for 13years and one of those was a plug-in.

I see posts here about mileage and just wanted to offer up some mileage managing strategies for anyone who is considering or may be new to the plug-in vehicle world.

The Niro is pretty weak from a dead stop if operating in hybrid mode. I try and always use electric only off the line and then switch to hybrid mode around 30mph or so. Takes some practice to remember but helps the overall experience alot. This technique combined with the coasting driving style (a must for hybrids with regenerative braking) and I am getting a combined average of 60mpg on my daily commute of 150miles round trip.

This means that the 558 combined range distance when i bought the car has now been extended to 583 miles combined range just by practicing this driving style.

the hybrid system on the Niro is actually pretty good overall and the regen technology has come a long way from when i purchased my 2012 plug-in prius. You can now recoup or at least maintain most of the electricity used which helps extend your range overall.

Just loving the car and wanting to throw in my two cents on some techniques to get the most out of the driving experience.

If any KIA or Niro developers are reading this, It would be AWESOME if there was a default feature to switch to electric only at every stop and then automatically kick on the engine at 30mph. This would remove the humans needing to remember issue and maximize this great little car!

My 2017 Niro EX switches to EV at EVERY stop, and it's a hybrid, NOT a plug in. The only time this doesn't happen is in the below zero temperatures of here in Upstate NY when the heat is on MAX.. But once it's warmed up, even then, all full stops switch to EV mode per the display indicator.
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I would expect a lot more miles out of a tank from a Plug-in...

No electric heater, just engine fluid to the heater core, Niro turns on the engine on just to warm the cabin.

I have driven from stop to 45 3 or 4 times on EV, and dozens to 40, countless to 30. I have caught it in EV at 60 mph, flat level driving dozens of times, usually lasts about 1 1/2 miles.

I have gotten several 620~644 mile tanks on my '17 Niro LX. Those tanks were probably 85%+ city stop and go driving, 40 mph and under.

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If you keep the car outside...

The gas door can get water inside it and freeze shut.
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I would expect a lot more miles out of a tank from a Plug-in...
The PHEV has half a gallon smaller tank than the HEV and being heavier has worse EPA ratings for gas miles, thus lower estimated range. Actual range per tank could be thousands of miles depending on how many miles of EV driven.

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