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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-16-2019, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
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Just picked up a new Niro PHEV yesterday. The battery was empty, which is what I was expecting. But still disappointed in the dealership. Charged it up last night with the level 1 charger. Just ordered a 32A level 2 charger, but won't get it for a few days. House is a new build with a 240V, 40A circuit in the garage. Wish I had the plug installed closer to the garage auto door though for charging outside of the garage.


Today was my first drive with a charged battery. Drove 22 km's to work and only used 31% of the battery! Very happy with that, I'll be able to drive to work and home and still have some juice left over. Although I was taking it easy this morning.
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What?! You want to leave your new car outside?

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My dealer has an EVSE installed, so we left it plugged in the entire time we were negotiating and completing the paperwork, so it was fully charged by the time I left.

You don't really need a 32 amp EVSE, the car only has a 16 amp charger. But if/when you decide to step up to a BEV you'll have a unit that will work faster with it.
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Why would I leave the car in the garage? That's where I keep my toys. :-) And workshop. Although I do re-organize the garage so we can fit our 2 cars in the garage for winter.


I though the max charge rate for the Niro was 7.6 KWH or something like that. What is the charge rate of the Niro?
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Why would I leave the car in the garage? That's where I keep my toys. :-) And workshop. Although I do re-organize the garage so we can fit our 2 cars in the garage for winter.


I though the max charge rate for the Niro was 7.6 KWH or something like that. What is the charge rate of the Niro?
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A 40 amp circuit with a 32 amp EVSE is a good investment. You only need 16 amps for the Niro PHEV but if you ever get a BEV later down the road you'll be glad you have the 32 amp EVSE.


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A 40 amp circuit with a 32 amp EVSE is a good investment. You only need 16 amps for the Niro PHEV but if you ever get a BEV later down the road you'll be glad you have the 32 amp EVSE.
A 240v 16a L2 cord / plug will charge ~10miles /hr or 100 miles in 10 hrs overnight.

I expect 100 miles is more than most peoples daily commute. What's not used daily will accumulate for that 200 mile weekend trip.

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I though the max charge rate for the Niro was 7.6 KWH or something like that. What is the charge rate of the Niro?
Nope, I only know of one PHEV that has a 7.2 kW charger, and that's the Chrysler Pacifica. There might be one or two others, but the vast majority are rated at no more than 3.6 kW.

Just a technical note: kWh is a capacity, kW is a rate. So the battery is rated in kWh, while the charger is rated in kW.

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I ended up cancelling my 32A EV charger, and getting a 16A charger that has a 40' cable. When I had our 240V outlet installed 2 years ago I thought it would be a good idea to have it near the front of the garage, mistake. Wish I had it at the back, by the auto door. But the 40' cable will give me more than enough length so I can park my car in the driveway.

I don't know how long the charger cable should last, but I figure when I get a new car in 5 years time, if I need a new cable or the new car charges at a higher rate I will put a new outlet in then and get a new cable as well.
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I have the PHEV, so the car will only hold a charge good for 26 miles / 42 Km's. My thought is on weeknights, or weekends where I am in the car 2 or 3 times a day I can top up the battery in 1-2 hours and have full charge to maximize EV driving. My electricity is pretty cheap, so the more I use EV the more I save $.

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