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gjlost 02-13-2019 07:30 PM

Differences between 2017, 18, 19 HEV?
 
Are there any electrical/mechanical differences between the years?

One I know of is the 12V battery change.

And hopefully they take care of the recalls as they occur. I haven't seen as many complaints of the door handles breaking after the 2017 model.

lafe005 02-13-2019 07:48 PM

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Are there any electrical/mechanical differences between the years?

One I know of is the 12V battery change.

And hopefully they take care of the recalls as they occur. I haven't seen as many complaints of the door handles breaking after the 2017 model.


All the same, no major component change.. For the battery, some had it in tha cargo right side, and others directly in the major battery. if your choice goes on a 2019, all past recalls are from the past (even the handle problem!)

yticolev 02-13-2019 08:19 PM

If you are in North America, all three model years for the HEV had the same 12V battery. The 2017 world model had a lead acid 12V battery. Not sure if there was a 2016 Niro overseas, but if there was, it would also have a lead acid battery. I suspect there was one overseas as my dealer had a showroom model with one before the 2017s came out that had to be returned to Kia without selling it. The 2016 Ioniqs all had lead acid 12V batteries.

The only significant model change I know of is that the 2017 did not have LKAS as an option in the US (other countries did have it). That is one reason I waited until the 2018 model year to buy. Not a huge deal, and honestly it is a bit annoying to feel steering wheel adjustments. But if it saves your life just once...

Trims do change (and their options), and the later built models will have corrected earlier issues. The door handle was over torquing a nut, easy adjustment at the factory. Fixing a broken door handle was also easy, except for a poor supply chain.

lafe005 02-13-2019 08:48 PM

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If you are in North America, all three model years for the HEV had the same 12V battery. The 2017 world model had a lead acid 12V battery. Not sure if there was a 2016 Niro overseas, but if there was, it would also have a lead acid battery.

Yes and no, FYI, i probably had a "non-north america" 2018 HEV, because there was no battery bloc in the right side cargo area. But the 12v (probably a lead acid 12V battery ?!?) it was included in the main pack of the big battery.. (see image) ;)

yticolev 02-13-2019 09:53 PM

No, the lead acid battery is always right rear on applicable models like the PHEV. Again, all North American HEV models have a lithium 12v battery bolted to the traction battery under the rear seat. No room for a lead acid battery there.

lafe005 02-13-2019 10:58 PM

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No, the lead acid battery is always right rear on applicable models like the PHEV. Again, all North American HEV models have a lithium 12v battery bolted to the traction battery under the rear seat. No room for a lead acid battery there.

You are SOOOOO dam right yticolev! Like i have writen before, was not so shure if it was a "probably a lead acid 12V battery ?!?" or not under the rear seat... AND as a bonus, like you said that on a 2016 and 2017 HEV, it's.just like all PHEV.. just in the cargo right side area.. Just like you said.! Man you're good!

Guess i will go to bed more intelligent tonight!... :nerd:

eddarrah 02-14-2019 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by yticolev (Post 68103)
If you are in North America, all three model years for the HEV had the same 12V battery. The 2017 world model had a lead acid 12V battery. Not sure if there was a 2016 Niro overseas, but if there was, it would also have a lead acid battery. I suspect there was one overseas as my dealer had a showroom model with one before the 2017s came out that had to be returned to Kia without selling it. The 2016 Ioniqs all had lead acid 12V batteries.

The only significant model change I know of is that the 2017 did not have LKAS as an option in the US (other countries did have it). That is one reason I waited until the 2018 model year to buy. Not a huge deal, and honestly it is a bit annoying to feel steering wheel adjustments. But if it saves your life just once...

Trims do change (and their options), and the later built models will have corrected earlier issues. The door handle was over torquing a nut, easy adjustment at the factory. Fixing a broken door handle was also easy, except for a poor supply chain.


My local dealer here in NY state had 2017 touring models with LKAS. My 2017 EX does not have it but the Touring model did and I believe it was standard equipment not an option.

deltasmith 02-14-2019 01:45 AM

I've heard that earlier HEVs came with some sort of WiFi system. My 2018 PHEV doesn't have that, but does have a cellular modem that supports certain UVO features like the one that allows you to start the AC from your cell phone or laptop. That might also be a difference in trim packages rather than model years though.


According to the Kia web site, the 2019 PHEV introduced a few additional exterior color options and an option for a sunroof. (But good luck finding those new options on a dealer's lot- they are still pretty rare).


It's likely that a 2019 HEV or PHEV will have updated software when delivered, although it's likely that a dealer could apply most new software updates during a service visit.


Aside from that, I haven't heard about any significant changes between 2018 and 2019 models.

lafe005 02-14-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by eddarrah (Post 68119)
My local dealer here in NY state had 2017 touring models with LKAS. My 2017 EX does not have it but the Touring model did and I believe it was standard equipment not an option.

You are right, only the Touring or others trims with advanced tech package has the LKAS installed.

lafe005 02-14-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by deltasmith (Post 68129)
I've heard that earlier HEVs came with some sort of WiFi system. My 2018 PHEV doesn't have that, but does have a cellular modem that supports certain UVO features like the one that allows you to start the AC from your cell phone or laptop. That might also be a difference in trim packages rather than model years though.

There is no wifi system, but a modem installed for the UVO system for the PHEV since 2018.




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According to the Kia web site, the 2019 PHEV introduced a few additional exterior color options

Well, for the USA country, there are not new additionnal colors, it's more like a split of the blue colors, that were available for the 2017-2018 HEV... For exemple: The 2019 HEV has now the Deep Cerulean color and the 2019 PHEV, the Gravity Blue color.
But, for Canada, both colors are available for both models and trims. Except for the red color that was taken off the 2019 order list.!


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