They say to not use an extension cord at all. But that instruction is written by lawyers. So, that said I've been plugging mine into a 50ft long, 14awg extension cord, and had no problems. Not warm to the touch or anything. No faults or slow charges, it works exactly the same as plugging it into the wall. (After all, the wiring inside your wall is basically an extension cord, too.)
the size of the wire inside your house is more dependant on the lenght of the cable run. I would highly doubt that any house is wired with 12g wire. More than likely it is 16
the size of the wire inside your house is more dependant on the lenght of the cable run. I would highly doubt that any house is wired with 12g wire. More than likely it is 16
They say to not use an extension cord at all. But that instruction is written by lawyers. So, that said I've been plugging mine into a 50ft long, 14awg extension cord, and had no problems. Not warm to the touch or anything. No faults or slow charges, it works exactly the same as plugging it into the wall. (After all, the wiring inside your wall is basically an extension cord, too.)
My 110 volt KIA charging station with KIA charger + KILL A VOLT meter. Outlet is 7 feet from car low use circuit.
The P4400 KILL A VOLT meter shows:
1. Actual AMP flow from 110 volt outlet.
2. Volts & cycles at outlet.
3. Time Charger is on.
4. KwH used in minutes & seconds. ( How I trac my electricity use & cost. )
IN CAR PHEV SETTINGS: * go to charging settings, charging current 120 volts, choose: MAXIMUM - REDUCED - MINIMUM
I use REDUCED @ 6.98 AMPS shown on my KILL A VOLT meter.
I set my KIA charger at "M" by pressing & holding the small button on the back of the KIA Charger.
Outlet, Charger or KILL A WATT meter has never shown any HEAT related issues. Charger mounted on aluminum heat sink
Great subject. Most household circuits are 20 amp. Take a look at your breaker panel. 20 amp circuits require, as previously mentioned, 12 gauge wire. Probably the lawyers would say no extension cord at all but the shorter the better and the larger the wire, the better. 16 gauge is smaller than 12.
You would think that there is no problem with a 16 amp max charger on a 20 amp circuit and there likely isn't; but what else is on that 20 amp circuit?
The margin can be improved by reducing the charge level through settings on the car. but here is always another BUT. If you use an aftermarket charger, it may not reduce charging current despite changing the car setting. You won't know without timing the charge or using a meter of some sort.
Has anyone found a cheap aftermarket charger that can be controlled by the car? I have a cheap Ebay one but am afraid to use it since my 20 amp circuits are 50+ years old, I haven't figured out what else might be on the circuit I use and the charger will only charge at 16 amps.
Great subject. Most household circuits are 20 amp. Take a look at your breaker panel. 20 amp circuits require, as previously mentioned, 12 gauge wire. Probably the lawyers would say no extension cord at all but the shorter the better and the larger the wire, the better. 16 gauge is smaller than 12.
You would think that there is no problem with a 16 amp max charger on a 20 amp circuit and there likely isn't; but what else is on that 20 amp circuit?
The margin can be improved by reducing the charge level through settings on the car. but here is always another BUT. If you use an aftermarket charger, it may not reduce charging current despite changing the car setting. You won't know without timing the charge or using a meter of some sort.
Has anyone found a cheap aftermarket charger that can be controlled by the car? I have a cheap Ebay one but am afraid to use it since my 20 amp circuits are 50+ years old, I haven't figured out what else might be on the circuit I use and the charger will only charge at 16 amps.
I've seen a lot of household circuits that that were 15 amp and 14 gauge wire. I've even seen installations that used 3 wire cable, and connected two of the wires to each of the hot legs of a 240 V supply, and then shared the neutral return, in order to feed a number of 120V circuits with one cable rather than two. Apparently the technique is NEC compliant, but I don't like to cut corners quite that hard.
One way to figure out what is on a circuit is to turn on everything that you think might be on it, and then shut it off at the panel and see what actually shuts off.
I've seen a lot of household circuits that that were 15 amp and 14 gauge wire. I've even seen installations that used 3 wire cable, and connected two of the wires to each of the hot legs of a 240 V supply, and then shared the neutral return, in order to feed a number of 120V circuits with one cable rather than two. Apparently the technique is NEC compliant, but I don't like to cut corners quite that hard.
This technique is used in kitchens mostly. On the electrical plug there are two sockets and a metal tab that ties the upper and lower together. When they run a 3wire and plug in the black and red, they break this tab making the top and bottom use a different wire. This allows you to say run an electric kettle on the top part, and a coffee maker on the bottom at the same time. if you had it running off a single wire, the load would be more than the 15 amps and it would blow the breaker. You must remember that a breaker is not to protect a device that is plugged in, but the wire that is running inside the wall.
As well, an electric outlet that is rated to 20amps looks totally different than a standard electric outlet.
Not necessarily. Breakers and outlets are easy to change while rewiring a circuit correctly is a lot of work. If you are concerned about the wiring or just have doubts, it's probably worth taking a look at. If you are handy, you can check the wiring yourself at the breaker panel and in the outlet box to see if it's up to code for the circuit. Otherwise, having a professional look at it might not be a bad idea. As someone mentioned up thread, the breaker is there to protect the wiring, not the thing that's plugged into it. If the breaker is oversized for the circuit there is an increased risk of fire or other major problems. That would suck.
In 1964, I don't think they had the break-lock style fuses. I seem to remember they used the screw in Glass fues. Now it wasn't unheard of for someone to put in a large fuse into a circuit that kept on blowing.
The house does have circuit breakers and I'm reasonably certain they have been there since it was built in '64. I have some electrical work to be done so I'll let them check at least the circuit I'll be using.
Loving my brand new 2019 Niro EV! This being my first EV, I have questions about charging practice -- in particular, to what max level should I charge each night I plug it in? And does it matter if it's trickle or level 2 charging? My salesperson said if you really want to preserve battery...
We have a new Niro EV. The Level 1 charger cable included with the car shows "Fault" when it is plugged into a standard 120 volt socket, and the cable will not supply any charge to the car. See the photo below. Any suggestions?
I have seen other posts saying that chargers are showing a fault. However, my charger screen isn't showing anything at all. I bought my 2019 PHEV Niro on Saturday. I charged it twice, but now the charger is not working. Any suggestions?
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