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2023 Niro EV Wind, anyone know if there's a default speed where the parking brake does not engage?

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Recently picked up a new 2023 Niro Wind EV. The odds of accidentally hitting the "P" button in the center of the drive mode wheel in the middle console is low, but it is something I do worry about. Wouldn't take much for it to accidentally get pressed, dropped on, or something set on while driving since it's very exposed. Not so worried about the lever since it requires more force.

Some vehicles state that the electronic parking brake will not engage at speeds over 5 mph, pretty much any speed could be catastrophic! The owners manual talks about it in several places but it does not mention any speed, it just says if engaged while in motion could cause loss of control. I messaged KIA directly and they only responded with the same information that's in the users manual, they said only a technician would have further information. Anyone know the minimum speed for parking brake engagement?

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This is something I don't plan on testing, but the worrisome side of me does wonder if I should cover it with something to make it more difficult to engage, especially when driving with passengers. Seems like a design flaw that should be placed somewhere a bit harder to reach or have a safety lock.

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the 2023 EV can be shifted to neutral from drive and back at any speed.
Yes, as can pretty much any car on the road.
Not sure what this has to do with shifting to "P" at any speed.
Yes, as can pretty much any car on the road.
Not sure what this has to do with shifting to "P" at any speed.
it doesnt...i was just quoting the guy that said you have to use the brake first.
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@SamPham I am not sure you read post #11 completely. Pressing the P on the console will NOT shift the transmission into PARK unless the brake pedal is depressed. I think many are overthinking this--totally understand that process--received the "wait, I need to overthink this" t-shirt for my last birthday.

The electronic parking brake engages the rear brakes--just like the mechanical parking brake levers or pedals that other vehicles have, it has nothing to do with the transmission. The P shift button, just like any other P whether it is a dash lever, floor console lever, or steering wheel column lever is used to shift the transmission into "park". These are two independent actions/mechanisms.
I actually just tested this and P does engage in any mode at low speed. Granted it was at very low speed, maybe 1 MPH. I parked on a slight hill, put the car in Neutral and coasted with no foot on the brake, hit P and it engaged. I put the car and drive at slow motion, hit P and it engaged. I put the car in reverse and hit P and it engaged. All with no foot on the brake. So at low speed it's active. I'm not going to keep testing to find out what speed it doesn't engage.
I actually just tested this and P does engage in any mode at low speed. Granted it was at very low speed, maybe 1 MPH. I parked on a slight hill, put the car in Neutral and coasted with no foot on the brake, hit P and it engaged. I put the car and drive at slow motion, hit P and it engaged. I put the car in reverse and hit P and it engaged. All with no foot on the brake. So at low speed it's active. I'm not going to keep testing to find out what speed it doesn't engage.
I wouldn't recommend doing that...I guess it is your car - do as you please
I wouldn't recommend doing that...I guess it is your car - do as you please
Believe me I don't plan to keep testing. But the at 1 mph both the EPB and P will engage without pressing the brake pedal.

Point being. Aside from granny dropping her Glucerna bottle on it, or uncle Bob's little dog accidentally stepping on it, it'd be nice to know from KIA technical what the threshold settings are. That is all.
Believe me I don't plan to keep testing. But the at 1 mph both the EPB and P will engage without pressing the brake pedal.

Point being. Aside from granny dropping her Glucerna bottle on it, or uncle Bob's little dog accidentally stepping on it, it'd be nice to know from KIA technical what the threshold settings are. That is all.
The EPB can be engaged at any speed without brake application.
I doubt Kia technical has any threshold settings for P application. They expect the brake to be depressed when you engage P, just like it has been since the advent of the auto transmission.
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