[condor77]

117,333 miles on my 2017 Kia Niro replaced my brakes on all 4 wheels regular oil change when needed. Time for a new serpentine belt and I'll get another 100,000 miles...

 

[FlNiro]

117,333 miles on my 2017 Kia Niro replaced my brakes on all 4 wheels regular oil change when needed. Time for a new serpentine belt and I'll get another 100,000 miles...

What mileage did you replace your brakes? I guess the title is a typo? 117k miles not 217k miles, right?

 

[MarkGinn]

117,333 miles on my 2017 Kia Niro replaced my brakes on all 4 wheels regular oil change when needed. Time for a new serpentine belt and I'll get another 100,000 miles...

Timing belt is the critical one, so you don't bend a valve.

 

[adhack]

Timing belt is the critical one, so you don't bend a valve.

I think I recently read that these have timing chains. Is that correct? If so, for all modes?

 

[Griswald]

I think I recently read that these have timing chains. Is that correct? If so, for all modes?

Yes, per the Kia parts buying list.

 

[Techy]

Timing belt is the critical one, so you don't bend a valve.

Timing belts are a thing of the past. Everything is now timing chain.

 

[FlNiro]

Timing belts are a thing of the past. Everything is now timing chain.

What's old is new again!!!

 

[Techy]

Timing chain should last lifetime of engine but if it "goes" early, there will likely be valve damage just like a timing belt.

 

[SDeemer]

117,333 miles on my 2017 Kia Niro replaced my brakes on all 4 wheels regular oil change when needed. Time for a new serpentine belt and I'll get another 100,000 miles...

I use regenerative braking through the left paddle perhaps 80% of the time on a 2023 Niro SX. I looked at the front rotors last weekend. With ~2500 miles on the car, the cross-hatching from the factory machining was still visible. It's not hard to imagine pads lasting 100,000 miles.

 

[Techy]

I use regenerative braking through the left paddle perhaps 80% of the time on a 2023 Niro SX. I looked at the front rotors last weekend. With ~2500 miles on the car, the cross-hatching from the factory machining was still visible. It's not hard to imagine pads lasting 100,000 miles.
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Give it some time and the "rust" will begin to appear unless you regularly cause the friction brakes to be applied.
I agree the brake pads will last a very long time.

 

[SDeemer]

That's why my 80/20 rule for braking.

 

[FlNiro]

Give it some time and the "rust" will begin to appear unless you regularly cause the friction brakes to be applied.
I agree the brake pads will last a very long time.

Don't the friction brakes take over below 5 mph. or something like that? Or was that just a Prius thing?

 

[Techy]

Don't the friction brakes take over below 5 mph. or something like that? Or was that just a Prius thing?

Yes, they do but it will require more than that to keep the rotors clean.
I will do a friction pad stop in neutral (where other traffic is not going to be affected) several times per week, especially in the winter time.
I read in the 2023 owners manual where the electronic parking brake can be used and it is a recommended procedure.

 

[SDeemer]

2023 Owner's Manual, 6-44:

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[FlNiro]

2023 Owner's Manual, 6-44:

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Does it say you have to drive the car to do this? Don't see what good it will do if the car is stationary? Seems overly complicated think it's easier to do what somebody else mentioned, just put the car in neutral and use the regular brakes to stop.

 

[Techy]

Does it say you have to drive the car to do this? Don't see what good it will do if the car is stationary? Seems overly complicated think it's easier to do what somebody else mentioned, just put the car in neutral and use the regular brakes to stop.

Yes, you would have to drive the car and it appears that they clean the rotors for approx 10 brake applications or less if you disable again. Shutting car off will return to default - regen.

 

[doro6529]

Timing belts are a thing of the past. Everything is now timing chain.

Is that a fact, across the mfr spectrum, I still see belts on spec sheets.
Chains make straight forward maintenance issues, ie valve seals on a Camry, problematic.

 

[Techy]

Yes, you would

Is that a fact, across the mfr spectrum, I still see belts on spec sheets.
Chains make straight forward maintenance issues, ie valve seals on a Camry, problematic.

I agree that chains make some maintenance issues a major procedure but those "maintenance issues" should not occur until high mileage is reached.
Chains are not perfect but certainly much better than a timing belt.