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Hello All,
So the lv1 charger that came stock with my Niro PHEV died. I am looking for alternatives that people have used and like.
Needs to be with a North American 3 prong plug.
I couldn't find any other topics on level 1 everything is on level 2 chargers. If you know of a thread I can check out let me know as well.
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The biggest problem with L1 EVSEs is they cost almost as much as a Level 2 unit. Look on Amazon and Level 1 devices are around $200, while a 16 amp Level 2 device is about the same. Yes, it takes a 240v outlet. But even on Amazon there's a L1/L2 device for $200. Provides 12 amps on 120v and 16 amps on 240v. That reduces charging time by more than half. I could charge my PHEV at 240v in 2+20, while using the factory EVSE was over 5 hours. https://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-Portable-EV-Charger-Batteries/dp/B08PQ42SJ4/ But I'd be cautious using this specific one on 120v. They claim it provides 16 amps, but I wouldn't use it set higher than 12 amps on 120v.

L1 and L2 EVSEs all meet a standard, so there's no issue using a third party device.
 

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I wonder if one can select the current output? The description of the item notes 16amp/12V. I think my garage is 15amp/120v. What will the Niro PHEV draw amperage wise when plugged into 120V?
 

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I wonder if one can select the current output? The description of the item notes 16amp/12V. I think my garage is 15amp/120v. What will the Niro PHEV draw amperage wise when plugged into 120V?
You can only draw 80% of the rated circuit breaker as it is continuous. For 15A breaker, charger must be set for 12A; 20A breaker would be 16A
The PHEV will attempt to draw 16A
 

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You can only draw 80% of the rated circuit breaker as it is continuous. For 15A breaker, charger must be set for 12A; 20A breaker would be 16A
The PHEV will attempt to draw 16A
Unfortunately our electrical panel is quite a ways from the driveway and looks like it will be a pain to feed more wires between the panel and the garage for 240V. I looked at the electrical panel and the central vacuum (that is rarely used) is on a dedicated line serviced with a 20A circuit breaker. Once the PHEV arrives, I may just try out charging it with that outlet. Didn't really want to chance things with the 15A outlets. Thank you for explaining these things to a total noob!
 

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Unfortunately our electrical panel is quite a ways from the driveway and looks like it will be a pain to feed more wires between the panel and the garage for 240V. I looked at the electrical panel and the central vacuum (that is rarely used) is on a dedicated line serviced with a 20A circuit breaker. Once the PHEV arrives, I may just try out charging it with that outlet. Didn't really want to chance things with the 15A outlets. Thank you for explaining these things to a total noob!
Yes, the central vac circuit would work great and should you mistakenly try to use both at once, it should trip the breaker.
I believe the 120V charge cable that comes with the PHEV allows you to set the amps to something less than 16A
 

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Yes, the central vac circuit would work great and should you mistakenly try to use both at once, it should trip the breaker.
I believe the 120V charge cable that comes with the PHEV allows you to set the amps to something less than 16A
Thankfully the builder/electrician had the foresight to install a single outlet to prevent other items to be plugged into the same circuit. It was either great foresight or it may have been that he didn't have any duplex 20A outlets during installation day! Now just need to convince someone that it is a good idea to avoid using the central vac--thankfully it looks like I may have at least 2 months to do so.
 

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Thankfully the builder/electrician had the foresight to install a single outlet to prevent other items to be plugged into the same circuit. It was either great foresight or it may have been that he didn't have any duplex 20A outlets during installation day! Now just need to convince someone that it is a good idea to avoid using the central vac--thankfully it looks like I may have at least 2 months to do so.
Just unplug the vacuum when you plug in the Niro and no problem.
 

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If still looking for charger, best deal I found was and still is at Napa, Shumacher level 1 and 2, 28 foot long for $149. I went with level 2, and from no ev range, to full in 2.5 hours. It didn't seem much faster than the stock charger on level 1 though, but it is heavier, and longer.
 

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If still looking for charger, best deal I found was and still is at Napa, Shumacher level 1 and 2, 28 foot long for $149. I went with level 2, and from no ev range, to full in 2.5 hours. It didn't seem much faster than the stock charger on level 1 though, but it is heavier, and longer.
A 16 amp Level 2 EVSE will charge a PHEV more than twice as fast as the factory Level 1 EVSE. On Level 1, you have a max of 12 amps, so with Level 2 you not only double the voltage, you increase the current by 1/3. That takes a 5-1/2 hour charge to just under 2 1/2 hours.
 

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If still looking for charger, best deal I found was and still is at Napa, Shumacher level 1 and 2, 28 foot long for $149. I went with level 2, and from no ev range, to full in 2.5 hours. It didn't seem much faster than the stock charger on level 1 though, but it is heavier, and longer.
Do you know if it UL listed/certified?
 

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I assume so, as it is sold mainstream US, but I am not certain.
I emailed their customer support a few weeks ago and have not received a reply. Not all 120V electronic devices sold in the US need to be UL listed or certified. I am thinking that the Schumacher one is not, otherwise it would be prominently displayed in their marketing material/website.
 

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I used a non-UL certified EVSE for about a year before my utility offered me a JuiceBox. Since it was "only" 16 amps, I wasn't too concerned with it overheating. It's still lying around my garage somewhere, I really should dig it out and see if someone wants it.
 
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I used a non-UL certified EVSE for about a year before my utility offered me a JuiceBox. Since it was "only" 16 amps, I wasn't too concerned
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I was just about to change the single outlet on the dedicated 20A circuit for the central vacuum and found out that code dictates that the central vac is on a single dedicated outlet. Will just do what @Techy suggested in post #8 and plug the vacuum back in after charging is complete.
 

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It was either great foresight or it may have been that he didn't have any duplex 20A outlets during installation day!
It might be required by code. I recall looking into a 20 amp circuit for a window unit and (I think) code called for a single receptacle since it was a constant / high load appliance. Maybe a central vac gets treated the same way? Or maybe it’s just good practice?
 

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It might be required by code. I recall looking into a 20 amp circuit for a window unit and (I think) code called for a single receptacle since it was a constant / high load appliance. Maybe a central vac gets treated the same way? Or maybe it’s just good practice?
My central vac (home built in 1990) has a duplex outlet. But I do think it would be a good practice.
 
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