Are there any electrical/mechanical differences between the years?
One I know of is the 12V battery change.
And hopefully they take care of the recalls as they occur. I haven't seen as many complaints of the door handles breaking after the 2017 model.
Yes and no, FYI, i probably had a "non-north america" 2018 HEV, because there was no battery bloc in the right side cargo area. But the 12v (probably a lead acid 12V battery ?!?) it was included in the main pack of the big battery.. (see image)If you are in North America, all three model years for the HEV had the same 12V battery. The 2017 world model had a lead acid 12V battery. Not sure if there was a 2016 Niro overseas, but if there was, it would also have a lead acid battery.
You are SOOOOO dam right yticolev! Like i have writen before, was not so shure if it was a "probably a lead acid 12V battery ?!?" or not under the rear seat... AND as a bonus, like you said that on a 2016 and 2017 HEV, it's.just like all PHEV.. just in the cargo right side area.. Just like you said.! Man you're good!No, the lead acid battery is always right rear on applicable models like the PHEV. Again, all North American HEV models have a lithium 12v battery bolted to the traction battery under the rear seat. No room for a lead acid battery there.
If you are in North America, all three model years for the HEV had the same 12V battery. The 2017 world model had a lead acid 12V battery. Not sure if there was a 2016 Niro overseas, but if there was, it would also have a lead acid battery. I suspect there was one overseas as my dealer had a showroom model with one before the 2017s came out that had to be returned to Kia without selling it. The 2016 Ioniqs all had lead acid 12V batteries.
The only significant model change I know of is that the 2017 did not have LKAS as an option in the US (other countries did have it). That is one reason I waited until the 2018 model year to buy. Not a huge deal, and honestly it is a bit annoying to feel steering wheel adjustments. But if it saves your life just once...
Trims do change (and their options), and the later built models will have corrected earlier issues. The door handle was over torquing a nut, easy adjustment at the factory. Fixing a broken door handle was also easy, except for a poor supply chain.
You are right, only the Touring or others trims with advanced tech package has the LKAS installed.My local dealer here in NY state had 2017 touring models with LKAS. My 2017 EX does not have it but the Touring model did and I believe it was standard equipment not an option.
There is no wifi system, but a modem installed for the UVO system for the PHEV since 2018.I've heard that earlier HEVs came with some sort of WiFi system. My 2018 PHEV doesn't have that, but does have a cellular modem that supports certain UVO features like the one that allows you to start the AC from your cell phone or laptop. That might also be a difference in trim packages rather than model years though.
Well, for the USA country, there are not new additionnal colors, it's more like a split of the blue colors, that were available for the 2017-2018 HEV... For exemple: The 2019 HEV has now the Deep Cerulean color and the 2019 PHEV, the Gravity Blue color.According to the Kia web site, the 2019 PHEV introduced a few additional exterior color options
I think someone conflated LDW with LKAS. They are different. No US 2017 had LKAS available.My local dealer here in NY state had 2017 touring models with LKAS. My 2017 EX does not have it but the Touring model did and I believe it was standard equipment not an option.
Hum.!! is it me or i dont see where is the big difference when i look in the 2017 "Features and Functions Guide" book. Yes, it shows the LWDS system, but LKAS is displayed in the same option. So the option was there in 2017 HEV model.!I think someone conflated LDW with LKAS. They are different. No US 2017 had LKAS available.
Hum.!! is it me or i dont see where is the big difference when i look in the 2017 "Features and Functions Guide" book. Yes, it shows the LWDS system, but LKAS is displayed in the same option. So the option was there in 2017 HEV model.!
The page lafe005 posted doesn't specifically refer to LKAS, but it describes behavior that calls to mind what I think of as LKAS in that it states "while applying a slight adjustment to the steering". Of course, there's also a curious repetition between the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs where the 2nd describes both LDWS and LKAS and the 3rd repeat's the 2nd's description of LDWS while saying nothing about LKAS. Looks to me like a probable error in the documentation.LKAS is not in the page you posted. It was not available in the North American 2017 Niro or Ioniq models.
Man! You have allllll the anwsers.! thank god we have you here! :laugh:During 2017, Kia was providing manuals in rather bad translations to a number of English speaking countries. Cars sent to other countries did have LKAS available on some trims or options. Probably a bit of a nightmare to patch together manuals for different countries. In any case, the manuals are poorly written and executed and have quite a number of errors or misleading language.
Sorry :crying: but why am i soo out of line here, you're saying the same thing that i have said!Hey, that's over the top. I think your post is out of line. I for one, am glad we have yticolev here. I've learned a lot from him.