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Began yesterday: following a 2-hr drive, parked the car, left engine on, went to check mail. Came back, the orange "forward collision" icon was on.

Turned off the car, it was normal, but only used it for about two minutes, parked it.

Hours later, turned on the car. After about two minutes, the orange "forward collision" icon came on, and got a temporary warning that automatic lane following is disabled, and the LKA steering wheel icon turned orange (instead of white or green).

Just my luck, as I'm driving 900 miles this weekend.
 

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Did you check the radar surface?
 

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Frankly, not. I mean, the car is far from caked in mud, or anything. Looks like a clean car, though for sure I haven't washed it in any way, so I am sure there is dust all over and I'm sure if I scrub the whole car with a cloth, the cloth will turn out dirty.

But if you recommend cleaning the area marked on the attached picture, I'll do it right away! Hopefully it will fix the issue?
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Cleaned the area marked on the picture above with a clean cloth.

The cloth came out clean, i.e., there was no perceivable dirt. Started the car. The problem came back after about 3 minutes. It gives three temporary warnings. One is that HBA (High Beam Assist) is disabled.

Then you get two warnings that remain permanent until the engine is turned off: forward collision alert disabled (orange) and LKAS disabled (orange).
 

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I'd call and see if they can service it before you trip. Should be covered under warranty. Good luck.
 

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Thank you Beth. The car has 800 miles on it and is 5 weeks old. Unfortunately, I can't make the time to go to the dealer. So I'll just have to, you know, drive.

Quite the disappointment, but I see no alternative!
 

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I believe High Beam Assist uses a sensor either on the back side of the rear view mirror (the forward facing side) or the camera located at the top/center of the windshield. Anything obscuring your windshield, especially higher up towards the center? LKA uses that camera as well.
 

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Thank you. I cleaned up the windshield. Well, to be frank, used the fluid and the wipers. Glass looks extremely clean in the camera area. The errors persist and are (I found you can scroll through them):

"Check Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist system"
"Check High Beam Assist (HBA) system"
"Check Driver Attention Warning (DAW) system"
 

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It's sounding more like a sensor failure then. Either a sensor or the wiring for it. Certainly should be covered under warranty.
 

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OK, had a similar problem. I bumped into a rock in an alpine "parking lot", and the Smart Cruise Control warning came on. The dealer wanted something like $800 to remove the front bumper and "align" the radar sensor. I was able to remove the front bumper in about 45 minutes, and then noticed that the radar sensor was indeed pointing in a strange direction. It's held in place with sort or rubber pegs, and I was able to snap it into the correct alignment but just grabbing the sensor and putting it in the correct place. We put the bumper back in place and it solved the problem.

I think it may have been possible to do this without removing the bumper, so see if you can find a way to grab the sensor and see if it feels loose. You should be able to push it into the correct place.

Good luck,

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You probably have a sensor gremlin of some kind. At least two of your annoying alerts are camera related. Not convinced your radar is faulty - when snow gets on mine it shuts off the "advanced" cruise control, although I only use standard CC (which continues to work). Nothing that suggests you cannot take your trip safely. Unless you rely on safety systems to protect you while you are texting.

Just making a point, not insulting you. In the olden times, whenever an alert came on, I assumed the idiot light was broken. I once drove 500 miles after a charging system alert came on - the alternator brushes were worn out as it turned out. Amazing how long basic cars without 30 CPUs can continue to fire spark plugs with a simple 12 volt battery. When the car no longer ran if the radio was on, I got the hint - but I was still 100 miles from the next city. Made it and the alternator brushes and labor would make you all laugh for how inexpensive the fix was.

No car has safety systems worth trusting. I actually regret paying $1,200 extra for my "tech" (safety) package. I do not feel safer, and it has so far only worked inappropriately every single time it activates. I thought when I bought it that if it saved my life even once... Seems unlikely now that I've had the car 40,000 miles.
 
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