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I am definitely considering buying a Kia Niro. I am thinking about the FE or EX? The FE comes with some nice features for a base model. I know it is better gas mileage than an EX but it is ever so slight to make a difference. However, do you think it is worth to spend almost $3000 more to get the extras on an EX over a FE? I never had any of these features as I have a 1996 Nissan Maxima and back then they never had the safety features that they do now. Is it really worth the money? How important are all these features? I would appreciate all the feedback I can get on this. Thank you very much.
 

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For myself, I think the LX with the driver aids option is best. I hate sunroofs so that excludes the top-level trims, and I want the driver aids and the gas-mileage wheels (16"). I like pushbutton start and keyless entry. The folks that bought new Honda Civics and opted not to get the driver aids really regretted it. Driver aids are the best thing to come along in cars since cruise control.
 

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You must mean the automotive technology package for $1450 which includes forward collision, lane deparure and autonomous emergency braking. How many of you think this is worth it at this price add on? Thanks.
 

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I totally think those features are worth it. I wanted a trim level with all the safety features including blind spot detection and rear cross traffic alert and parking sensors no sunroof and smaller rims, but that isn't an option.

The LX does not have blind spot detection and rear cross traffic alert, that's in the EX trim. Touring adds front/rear parking sensors. The touring launch sounded great because it has no sunroof but it doesn't have parking sensors so I'm going for the touring with the advanced package. I've been told by dealerships in my area they will be getting touring trim later this week. Assuming I like the test drive and they are willing to negotiate I will buy it this week.
 

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Wow, that's great that you can buy so soon, fernando. I've been told by my dealer "spring", but I don't think most dealers know anything. Others have said middle of Feb. and that sounds more like it. I will wait till the Ioniq comes out because I'm undecided between Niro and Ioniq and want to test drive both.
 

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A dealer told me they are getting 2 tonight so they can be test driven tomorrow. Other dealers told me April, one said August haha. What's odd is the niro builder isn't available on the kia website and you can't find it on the Kia website if you want to get pre-approved for financing.
 

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jay...the only other vehicle I am considering is the Hyundai Ioniq also. Leaning towards the Kia Niro right now but will take both for a test drive when the time comes.
 

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Between the Niro and Ioniq, I like the styling of the Ioniq a lot more and I like the better gas mileage. The Niro has towing capability and I can definitely make use of the roof racks. The Niro has more overall utility. It will come down to comfort (which one accommodates my long legs better), price, ground clearance, option packages, and which one drives better. Fernando, what's your location? Probably a long way from mine.
 

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Jay.....I am thinking the same way as you even though I am leaning towards the Niro because of the higher driving position and more storage space. However, the Ioniq is still a possibility for me if all the things you mentioned are better than the Niro.
 

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I am in San Diego. I test drove the car yesterday. Really liked the interior of the touring trim. I like the darker grey or white exterior, but I'm leaning dark grey. I sat in an ioniq at the car show and the Niro feel roomier to me. I'm comparing it to the prius and it's definitely a nicer interior than the prius. Problem is Prius is about 33,100 out the door dully loaded and it gets 50+ mpg. I got the dealership to go down to 34,800; i think the max i would pay is 34k. I'm going to a different dealership today to see if they can go down more. I don't think I can get close to sticker out the door any time soon since it's so new.
 

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remote start isn't an appropriate option for a hybrid. actually, it's not an appropriate option for any car but particularly wrong for a hybrid. get a block heater instead.
 

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For a hybrid, they don't normally idle. In a hybrid, when the vehicle is stopped the engine typically only runs when the battery needs charging.

For any car, idling an engine warm wastes fuel, causes pollution, and is hard on the engine. The highest engine wear regime is the cold-start/warm-up cycle and idling doesn't put enough load on the engine to get it warm quickly. The best way to minimize engine wear is to get out of that cycle as quickly as possible and that means putting a moderate load on the engine as soon as it is started. Also, the transmission, wheel bearings, CV joints, etc. all need to warm up and the only practical way to get them warm is to get moving.
 

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For a hybrid, they don't normally idle. In a hybrid, when the vehicle is stopped the engine typically only runs when the battery needs charging.

For any car, idling an engine warm wastes fuel, causes pollution, and is hard on the engine. The highest engine wear regime is the cold-start/warm-up cycle and idling doesn't put enough load on the engine to get it warm quickly. The best way to minimize engine wear is to get out of that cycle as quickly as possible and that means putting a moderate load on the engine as soon as it is started. Also, the transmission, wheel bearings, CV joints, etc. all need to warm up and the only practical way to get them warm is to get moving.
I see your point with a Hybrid and remote start. I have remote started my Chevy over it's 155,000 miles on mornings in the teens and below for 7 years with no problems. Never uses oil between 10,000 mile oil changes (Mobil 1), one muffler in that time, original battery (08). Not that any of that is related but it's been a okay car without any effects from the remote starting.
 
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