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Best deal for the buck is to have free 0w20 synthetic oil change for life from your dealer.! for me, it's 2 times a year.!
 

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Thanks for info. I bought Mobil 1 0W-20 in advance for when I start changing. Right now, I get three years of free oil changes/tire rotation from the dealer.:)
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Heads Up, when I asked what type of oil they were going to put in my Niro they said semi-synthetic. They said that is what the Niro comes with from the factory. If I wanted full synthetic it would have been sixty or seventy dollars.
That was at 3500 miles, so I went with the semi thinking I would change it myself with full synthetic at 7000 miles. It might get a better, quicker break-in and not pay extortion prices. BTW, the first one was free.
 

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Wait 7,000 miles for first oil change?

Bought my last new car in 2002 when the first oil change was something like 1,000 miles, as I recall. It is troubling to think I should be driving around with the first oil for 7,000 miles. Can that be correct? It will take me close to two years to put that many miles on my Niro. I bought my car in September and now have 2,000 miles on it. Longest trip might be 50 miles. Most are 3 miles.
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Those kind of trips qualify as severe service.
 

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Heads Up, when I asked what type of oil they were going to put in my Niro they said semi-synthetic. They said that is what the Niro comes with from the factory. If I wanted full synthetic it would have been sixty or seventy dollars.
All one has to do is read the writing on the oil cap to know the dealer is lying to you. You cannot find 0W-20 in a semi-synthetic.
 

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Heads Up, when I asked what type of oil they were going to put in my Niro they said semi-synthetic. They said that is what the Niro comes with from the factory. If I wanted full synthetic it would have been sixty or seventy dollars.
All one has to do is read the writing on the oil cap to know the dealer is lying to you. You cannot find 0W-20 in a semi-synthetic.
 

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All one has to do is read the writing on the oil cap to know the dealer is lying to you. You cannot find 0W-20 in a semi-synthetic.
That's correct! When I got my first oil change I was toying with the idea of using a little heavier oil,5W-30. My dealer refused to do it saying the Niro comes from the factory with 0W-20 full synthetic oil and that's the only oil they would use.
 

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Well. unless you sit in the service bay and watch them open a bottle that says 0-20, you have zero knowledge that they put in the correct oil or not. Your only hope is that if you are taking it to a dealership if they do put in the wrong oil and mess something up, then it's on them to fix it. But likely putting in a heavier oil will make no difference immediately and might have a small difference down the road when the car is well outside of warranty.
 

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Zero knowledge is not an issue as I bring my own oil and filter to the game. But I did observe a bulk tank at my Kia dealer that was 0W-20 and they said that was what they would use if I hadn't brought my own oil.
 

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Zero knowledge is not an issue as I bring my own oil and filter to the game. But I did observe a bulk tank at my Kia dealer that was 0W-20 and they said that was what they would use if I hadn't brought my own oil.
Again, my point stands true that unless you see them use your oil and put your filter on, you really don't know what they did other than trust. Every dealership that I have ever been too might have glass walls to see into the service area, but unless your car is being worked on in Bay #1 right beside where you can see, your stuck to really observe anything with any detail.

Now I am not saying that all dealers are liars and thieves. On the contrary. But you are still living in an area of trust. Like on air filters I put a date code in sharpie on the side and as part of my service, I ask for the old air filter parts back and check. So far my Kia dearer has been totally honest. I have had on my old ford where the service place wasn't so.
 

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Unless they are dumping my oil into another car and give me back my container with the correct amount of oil left over, then the amount of paranoia needed to believe this would be amazing (why would any mechanic do this?). I also get my used filter back (I'll be cutting it open to see how the media survived) and can see if the new one is installed. I don't need to be there watching. Also getting a used oil sample to send to Blackstone. Those numbers will tell me they changed my oil. I would do this all myself (not because I'm paranoid, but to save money and for fun) if I had a lift.
 

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When I first read your retort to my comment I thought to myself, of course, 0w-20 would have to be full synthetic, how thoughtless of me.
But, yes they do make 0w-20 oil in a synthetic blend, as they call them. As far as Kia is concerned it's a service grade SN or ACEA c2 that's required in the Niro. Nowhere, anywhere does it say in the owners manual, full synthetic, and yes, those grades are achievable in at the very least a semi-synthetic.

All you'd need to do is look it up.

I know dealers are liars and stealers and that should tell you something about what some of them are capable of doing in those repair bays. If you don't think some people would stoop to that level, to steal your oil and filter and give it to their best buddy or keep it for themselves, you have a lot to learn about human nature.
 

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Well I work part time for an auto dealer and I know the mechanics and the service people and at least at our dealership and I think most others they are good people and would not steal from people.
 

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Well I work part time for an auto dealer and I know the mechanics and the service people and at least at our dealership and I think most others they are good people and would not steal from people.
I do all my work myself because I enjoy doing it and I am a cheapskate.

However I do have a pleasant story about a dealership. I had a Toyota brake actuator assembly begin to fail on my 2008 Prius. I took it to the Dealer in hopes the extended warranty for this part would still be in force but I had missed the deadline by 2 months. The part cost $1,500 and $650 to install. At this Toyota Dealership the Service Adviser and Mechanic assigned to the car come out and tell you what they found on your car. I told them that was a lot of money and I work on cars myself but didn't know if I could get this job done. The Dealership Mechanic talked to me about what I had done on cars before and told me he thought I could handle the job and told me some items to look out for when doing this job. He said if I did run into trouble bring it in to the Dealership and ask for him and he would take care of completing the job.

Using the Toyota service manual I was able to change the brake actuator-a 6 hour job then calibrate the system using the Techstream Toyota Diagnostic Software I had and then bleed the brake system. Everything went great and all codes reset and fault lights went out.

That kind Dealership Mechanics' hints came in very handy and he gave me the confidence to do the job and get it right.

I agree there are some honest and just downright good people who work at Dealerships. I won't ever forget that Mechanic who took time out of his day to talk to me.
 

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I know dealers are liars and stealers and that should tell you something about what some of them are capable of doing in those repair bays. If you don't think some people would stoop to that level, to steal your oil and filter and give it to their best buddy or keep it for themselves, you have a lot to learn about human nature.
I understand human nature, but I'm not a raving paranoid. A dealership is never going to sanction such behavior. Sure, an individual might, but it is hard to imagine a well paid mechanic augmenting his pay by stealing customer oil and filters (how many customers bring their own oil?) and jeopardizing his job. Crazy discussion!

As I already said, I get the parts back and I'm not blind - and the mechanic knows in advance I'm getting parts back. Anyway, oil change is done. Cut apart OEM filter, surprising to me was that it is the equal of many of the best filters in construction quality and materials. No signs of issues after 25,000 miles. More about that when I get the oil test back.
 
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