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This Fill-Up 08-06-2022 (26 days of use) at 52099 miles for 500 miles 9.705 gallon for 51.9 MPG at $3.349 per gallon (Kroger with $0.25 per gallon food purchases discount).

51.9 MPG is about over all average for this car. Seems recent fill ups had shown better MPG than history.

Typical use this period (since 07-11-2022) was mostly county roads at 35 to 55 MPH and some city / town use with traffic and stops.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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I just added our Niro on the other day. Yesterday we had 919.7 miles when we filled up with 8.2 gallons, that came out to 112MPG. The best we had gotten before that was 110 so we beat that by a little.
That is great glad you got to FUELLY -- but can't compare a Plug In with Non - Plug In.
 

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I just added our Niro on the other day. Yesterday we had 919.7 miles when we filled up with 8.2 gallons, that came out to 112MPG. The best we had gotten before that was 110 so we beat that by a little.
Like many here on the forum, I am somewhat obsessed with statistics including fuel economy. I've been tracking my kWh use vs. miles driven in a spreadsheet.

As I think I understand the mpg statistics for a PHEV, EV driving is considered "free", thus the mpg figures are inflated. (In my case, with almost all of my driving in EV mode, the inflation is extreme. The car's display almost always shows 999 mpg, rounded down from infinity.)

Next week I have a 1700 mile trip planned with little opportunity for charging enroute. This would give me a good opportunity to compute mpg. What think you of doing this the old fashioned way? (1) top up the tank before leaving (even if it is only 1/2 gal or so). (2) Record the odometer readings at start & at fuel up. (3) subtract an estimate of EV driving and then (4) Divide the result by the number of gallons purchased.

I've not d/l'ed any apps and am not inclined to do so because it would clutter up my phone plus I have privacy concerns.
 

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Any time I described my fuel consumption (or lack thereof) with my PHEV, I always pointed out that while the electricity wasn't free, it was far less costly per mile than gas or diesel. With my Niro, I believe there was only one or two months that I spent more than $20 for the electricity used each month. My JuiceBox allowed me to see the electricity used by the car (and that includes the losses from charging, since that's the kWh actually pulled from the wall).

Compared to the car I was driving previous to the Niro, I was saving over $200 a month, even accounting for the electricity cost. With my Bolt now one year old, I have had a couple of months of just under $50 for the month, but of course there was zero gas cost. I'm fortunate that I live in the Pacific NW, which in general has low cost electricity. And right now, gas is still hovering around $5 per gallon, so it's really inexpensive to drive with electricity. :D
 
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We are going on a long trip also, when I filled up today we had over 1000 miles on this tank of gas (only 8.1 gallons used). I'm expecting a long distance trip with no charging will cut the mileage in half or more. But even if we 'only' get 48-50mpg that's still excellent and the reason why why bought a PHEV, not having to worry about EV range and charger locations. We have pretty cheap power here and if we run the battery to 20% it's only about 62 cents or less to recharge it. Gas would have to be well under $1 to even come close to matching that cost. I would top off the gas then figure out miles/gallons the old fashion way. The dash display on ours is actually low, 1011 miles on 8.1 gallons is close to 125mpg, the dash shows 115.

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Back when fuel was really low, 2015 I think, I was driving a diesel Passat. Using Fred Meyer (Kroger) fuel points, I received $1 per gallon off. For some unknown reason, there was one Shell station that was doubling the discount, taking $2 off each gallon. With the diesel price at the time, I was paying about 69 cents per gallon, and Fuelly calculated my cost per mile at two cents. That's roughly what it's costing me to drive electric. So gas prices would really have to drop severely to reach that cost per mile.
 
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This Fill-Up 08-30-2022 (24 days of use) at 52,622 miles for 523 miles 9.724 gallon for 53.8 MPG at $2.969 per gallon (Kroger with $0.25 per gallon discount points from food purchases).

53.8 MPG is above average for this car. Seems recent fill ups had shown better MPG than history.

Typical use this period (since 08-06-22) was mostly county roads at 35 to 55 MPH and some city / town use with traffic and stops.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.

PS: Interesting to see the Plug In MPG reports (definitely impressive but is not relateable to a standard Hybrid). I imagine cost per mile is a lot lower than a standard Hybrid, it would be interesting to see cost per mile. Like my last was $28.87 for 523 miles = $0.0552 per mile. Needless to say been more cost per mile when gas was in the plus $4 per gallon.
 

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PS: Interesting to see the Plug In MPG reports (definitely impressive but is not relateable to a standard Hybrid). I imagine cost per mile is a lot lower than a standard Hybrid, it would be interesting to see cost per mile.
Over the 22,000 miles I had mine, Fuely reports an average MPG of 137.7, for a total gas cost of $352.42. Kroger fuel points kept my gas cost low, with an average of $2.23 per gallon. My cost per mile was $0.016. Based on my calculated cost for the electricity used, my total driving cost was about 3 cents per mile.
 

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This Fill-Up 09-19-22 (21 days of use) at 53,146 miles for 524 miles 9.802 gallon for 53.5 MPG at $2.909 per gallon (Kroger with $0.15 per gallon discount points from food purchases).

53.5 MPG is above average for this car. Seems recent fill ups had shown better MPG than history.

Typical use this period (since 08-30-22) was mostly county roads at 35 to 55 MPH and some city / town use with traffic and stops.

PS: Just for this fill up (524 miles) the cost per mile came out $0.054 per mile.
A previous poster came up with $0.03 per mile for his Plug In. That said, I have no idea what my cost per mile would be for the entire 53,146 miles, but average probably near the figure as at times over the 5 years and 8 months of ownership, gas was cheaper and at times more expensive (like upper $4.xx per gallon). Then of course is cost difference on the two types of vehicles?

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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This Fill-Up 10-18-22 (29 days of use) at 53,672 for 526 miles 9.755 gallon for 53.9 MPG at $3.249 per gallon (Kroger with $0.15 per gallon discount points from food purchases).

53.9 MPG is above average for this car. Seems recent fill ups had shown better MPG than history (maybe warmer weather benefit).

Typical use this period (since 09-19-22) was mostly county roads at 35 to 55 MPH and some city / town use with traffic and stops.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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Man, I just filled my daughter's GTI with Premium using Fred Meyer (Kroger) fuel points. Even with $1 per gallon off I paid $5.09 per gallon at a Shell. Really wish gas prices would get back closer to "normal" (whatever that is going to be).
 

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This Fill-Up 11-08-22 ( 21 days of use) at 54,188 for 516 miles 9.715 gallon for 53.1 MPG at $2.799 per gallon (Kroger with $0.25 per gallon discount points from food purchases).

53.1 MPG is above average for this car. Seems recent fill ups had shown better MPG than history (maybe warmer weather benefit).

Typical use this period (since 10-18-2) was mostly county roads at 35 to 55 MPH and some city / town use with traffic and stops.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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Man, I just filled my daughter's GTI with Premium using Fred Meyer (Kroger) fuel points. Even with $1 per gallon off I paid $5.09 per gallon at a Shell. Really wish gas prices would get back closer to "normal" (whatever that is going to be).
Gas prices are sadly high compared to old days (don't think we will ever see the old days again). At same time Americans are spoiled compared to Europe (always been $$ higher than in USA). They been driving smaller cars for years vs big pickups, big suvs, etc. I'm not sure what is reasonable, but companies making $billions profit is not reasonable. Capitalistic system has it's merits, but get as much as you can ain't one of the merits.
 

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This Fill-Up 11-27-22 (19 days of use) at 55,049 for 861 miles and 17 gallon (bought a few gallons at a couple stops on a trip) for 50.6 MPG at various prices from $2.899 to $3.499 per gallon at various brands. VA was the highest prices, $3.499 in one area.

50.6 MPG is below what the summer MPG has been (more like 52 MPG).

This 861 miles with 3 gallon added a couple times at prices from $3.199 to $3.499 in VA (high prices). Then 8 gallon added at $2.989 in TN, final was at home for another 3 gallon at $3.019.

So, was approx 371 miles usual local county roads driving 35 to 55 MPH and some town/city, then 490 miles on a trip that included about 330 miles of 73 MPH +/- and rest of trip around 60 MPH +/-.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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This Fill-Up 12-16-22 (19 days of use) at 55,513 miles for 464 miles and 9.356 gallon for $2.349 per gallon at Kroger (was $0.25 discount for Kroger Points).

49.5 MPG is below what the summer MPG has been (more like 52 MPG), winter MPG is showing up.

Typical use this period with mostly county roads driving 35 to 55 MPH and some town/city with stops and traffic.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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This Fill-Up 12-28-22 (12 days of use) at 55,860 miles for 347 miles and 7.977 gallon for $2.359 per gallon at Food City (was $0.0.30 discount for Food City grocery points).

43.5 MPG is good deal below what the summer MPG has been (more like 52 MPG) and below average for this car. Winter MPG is showing up.

Typical use this period with mostly county roads driving 35 to 55 MPH and some town/city with stops and traffic.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 

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This Fill-Up 01-24-2023 (27 days of use) at 56,582 miles for 722 miles and 14.006 gallon at $2.899 per gallon at KROGER (was 10.006 gallon at Kroger for $2..849 discount for grocery points and 4 gallon at various times during the period, not fill ups, just added a gallon or two).

51.5 MPG is about ave for this car (last fill up was lower blamed on cold weather?).

Typical use this period with mostly county roads driving 35 to 55 MPH and some town/city with stops and traffic.

NIRO is a 2017 EX with the Sunroof Pkg.
 
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