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I'd stick with Kia. They have a great rep and their quality keeps getting better.

I would take the refund and repurchase another Kia Niro of a different manufacturing annual quarter. Just make sure youre not dealing with a shady dealership/ service department.

I have nearly 8,500 miles on my Niro LX and it's been great.

As for VW as an option... please don't do that to yourself. They have a notorious worldwide reputation for building sh*tboxes that are enormously problematic. You will regret owning a VW passed 2-3 years (max) when they start to fall apart. They also defrauded the entire world with dieselgate. And yes, their service department culture is one of a crimal element. Again notoriously awful.
 
We are loving ours again. Had a brief scare that turned out to be operator error. If I ever get all the features figured out, I'm going to be an old man. Oh, just realized, I've already past that point in life. So far, haven't achieved 50 mpg but can't complain about 48+ with the fact that I sit with the motor running for long periods of time while I try to learn what all the buttons and such do. Too bad I can't do most of those things without running the engine. The next owner of this car might be getting one with twice the hours on the engine than on the rest of the car.
 
We are loving ours again. Had a brief scare that turned out to be operator error. If I ever get all the features figured out, I'm going to be an old man. Oh, just realized, I've already past that point in life. So far, haven't achieved 50 mpg but can't complain about 48+ with the fact that I sit with the motor running for long periods of time while I try to learn what all the buttons and such do. Too bad I can't do most of those things without running the engine. The next owner of this car might be getting one with twice the hours on the engine than on the rest of the car.
The engine shouldn't be running when you are sitting in park except in extreme hot conditions and only for a few seconds at a time to give the battery a break. I've sat at my son's soccer practice for over an hour with the windows down and the radio on with only a brief kick on of the engine a couple times.
 
Well, sitting with the electric engine on to power the accessories could drain the battery a little bit, which may cause the computer to use more gas later if the hybrid battery is lower? Shouldn?t be a huge factor but could make the difference between 48 and 50.

I?ve only had my EX for a week, and I have noticed the mild surging you guys are talking about, but I seem to be able to reduce it by the way I drive. In my experience it mostly happens when starting from a stop. It seems to happen if I try to accelerate too fast from a dead stop or too slowly when getting going. So if I press the pedal gently for the first second to get it rolling and then accelerate harder (no where near pedal to the floor, but harder than to maximize fuel efficiency... you know, like a normal driver, not a hybrid junkie :) ) that seems to let thing start off ok and then not be confused about which gear to hit next.
 
I must state that my sportwagen tdi was a beast and always gave 50 plus mpg for my driving locale and style. 2 to 5 over the limit. In the sportwagen I would not baby it for mpg yet get the 50 and peaked on long highway trips to 55 to 60 depending on speed, terrain and wind. The vehicle felt like a solid suv that drove like a sports car. The torque was simply amazing and the 6 speed dsg was awesome. The Niro feels too delicate in the acceleration department and a time bit of aggressive driving pushes the mpg down noticeably. Thought the hybrid process would allow diesel type utility and performance. The design put an anemic electric assist motor and I say assist because unless going 20 to 25 downhill the dino always seems to come on. On some steep long descends the gas motor was off for a bit but mostly its running than not! Kia should trade us a larger electric motor install to make this vehicle live up to the hype. NOTE do any of you have an issue with the trunk not shutting many times without a heavy slam and does the door kinda shimmy when you click the unlock to pop it open? Mine does that and the svc manager stated that its a minor thing after you slam it enough things will iron out. I am thinking of taking it to a body shop to get an opinion.
 
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