FredCT, Thanks, I have been on the Kia.com site quite a few times and been doing the build and buy feature as soon as the car was released last year. The cars delivered to the dealers I've been to don't match the website options, etc. very well. 2018 models probably are better than 2017 in that regard. I have looked at many local dealers website listings. Those in general are somewhat misleading. The only thing I actually trust at this time is the sticker on the window. Since for us, the safety systems are a requirement, a lot of Niros are not quite making the cut. They have 2017 EX Touring "launch" editions which are nice but lack the safety systems. There are lots of EX's priced like they had the Tech package which was supposed to have a sunroof and safety systems, but I never found one in CT. The dealer in Wallingford, CT does not "order" cars for customers apparently, at least not Niros. They will locate and get one for customers from other dealers in the region. So, we were at the dealer today getting our trade in valued. We decided we could probably get a lot more in a private sale so walked out. We have decided on a 2018 Touring at this time but will wait until we sell the current car first.