[mmchi]

I really like "Auto Hold". I do mostly stop and go driving in the city. I like not having to hold down the brake pedal while still feeling comfortable that my brake light is on and the car won't move.

I'm also getting more and more used to one-pedal driving, using the regen braking to bring the car to a complete stop.

But, the Auto Hold doesn't engage with one-pedal driving (at least the indicator light doesn't) unless I depress the brake pedal.

But what happens when I've taken my foot off of the accelerator and used the paddle to bring the vehicle to a complete stop and released the paddle. Is the brake light on? (Auto hold is not illuminated). Is there any functional difference between the vehicle in the "auto hold" position from the brake pedal and one that was stopped via the regen braking?

 

[sc489]

If you brake to a stop using the left regen paddle you will see a stop indicator appear and the car seems to be in the same mode as autohold although this is not explained in the manual

 

[SDeemer]

If you brake to a stop using the left regen paddle you will see a stop indicator appear and the car seems to be in the same mode as autohold although this is not explained in the manual

This has been my experience with a 2023 SX HEV, with or without using the brake pedal to modulate the last few feet. However, the car must come to a full and complete stop before releasing the left paddle. Also, I think I read that this behavior does apply to pre-2023 Niros.

 

[mmchi]

If you brake to a stop using the left regen paddle you will see a stop indicator appear and the car seems to be in the same mode as autohold although this is not explained in the manual

Thanks, I hadn't ever noticed that "Stop" indicator before.

 

[TheAirman]

If you brake to a stop using the left regen paddle you will see a stop indicator appear and the car seems to be in the same mode as autohold although this is not explained in the manual

I really like "Auto Hold". I do mostly stop and go driving in the city. I like not having to hold down the brake pedal while still feeling comfortable that my brake light is on and the car won't move.

I'm also getting more and more used to one-pedal driving, using the regen braking to bring the car to a complete stop.

But, the Auto Hold doesn't engage with one-pedal driving (at least the indicator light doesn't) unless I depress the brake pedal.

But what happens when I've taken my foot off of the accelerator and used the paddle to bring the vehicle to a complete stop and released the paddle. Is the brake light on? (Auto hold is not illuminated). Is there any functional difference between the vehicle in the "auto hold" position from the brake pedal and one that was stopped via the regen braking?

I have practicing with auto hold, auto regen, and iPedal. To try to answer your question, I think auto hold uses your auto e brake to hold the car stopped. I thought I heard it actuate on a hill when I was trying it out.

If you like one pedal driving in the city, I recommend practicing with iPedal. It brings the car to a complete stop and you never have to use the brake. The brake lights only come on when you foot is completely off the throttle. What I don't like about it is after you shut the car off, it defaults back to iPedal off, and you have to restart it every time.

Auto regen won't stop the car completely. It only increases the regen level as you approach a car in front of you. The brake lights come on only for a second or until you press the brake pedal.

In level 3 regen, the brake lights come on when you lift off the throttle, but go off at about 15 mph when approaching a stop. You got to press the brake to stop. The brake lights come on and stay on in iPedal as long as your foot is off throttle. I can't be sure about auto hold.

 

[TheAirman]

If you brake to a stop using the left regen paddle you will see a stop indicator appear and the car seems to be in the same mode as autohold although this is not explained in the manual

You have mentioned that twice. I have searched for the indicator you talk about and have not found it. Might it be specific to the UK vehicles?

When I come near a stop sign, mine shows a stop sign in the cluster and the heads up display. Is this what you are talking about?

 

[sc489]

You have mentioned that twice. I have searched for the indicator you talk about and have not found it. Might it be specific to the UK vehicles?

When I come near a stop sign, mine shows a stop sign in the cluster and the heads up display. Is this what you are talking about?

No - the indicator light STOP in red capitals appears in the lower part of the dashboard display which is nothing to do with traffic sign recognition.

 

[sc489]

I have practicing with auto hold, auto regen, and iPedal. To try to answer your question, I think auto hold uses your auto e brake to hold the car stopped. I thought I heard it actuate on a hill when I was trying it out.

If you like one pedal driving in the city, I recommend practicing with iPedal. It brings the car to a complete stop and you never have to use the brake. The brake lights only come on when you foot is completely off the throttle. What I don't like about it is after you shut the car off, it defaults back to iPedal off, and you have to restart it every time.

Auto regen won't stop the car completely. It only increases the regen level as you approach a car in front of you. The brake lights come on only for a second or until you press the brake pedal.

In level 3 regen, the brake lights come on when you lift off the throttle, but go off at about 15 mph when approaching a stop. You got to press the brake to stop. The brake lights come on and stay on in iPedal as long as your foot is off throttle. I can't be sure about auto hold.

What do you mean by ipedal? I pull and hold the left paddle for regenerative braking to a stop and pull and hold the right paddle once when starting the car to set auto regenerataion.

 

[TheAirman]

What do you mean by ipedal? I pull and hold the left paddle for regenerative braking to a stop and pull and hold the right paddle once when starting the car to set auto regenerataion.

I think i-Pedal is only available on the EV.

i-Pedal is true one pedal driving. Push on the throttle and go. Lift off the throttle and the electric pump in the braking system puts on the brakes and the car stops. You never touch the brake.

to activate:
auto regen off by holding right paddle .5 sec
left paddle to regen level 3
hold left paddle .5 sec (i-Pedal light on)

 

[TheAirman]

No - the indicator light STOP in red capitals appears in the lower part of the dashboard display which is nothing to do with traffic sign recognition.

Is the stop indicator you mention shown on this .pdf file?

2023 Niro EV Owners Manual.pdf

 

[KiwiME]

I realise that this forum is concerning the completely-new '23+ EV, but I'll just mention for information that the Kona EV (same electrically as the older model Niro EV) uses hydraulic brakes only for Auto Hold and the motor only for left-paddle-stop. The difference is more discernible on slopes as, when brakes are applied you can hear them release when you start off again. When the motor is used to hold position the take-off is silent. It would be interesting if Kia has taken a new path with this model.

 

[sc489]

Is the stop indicator you mention shown on this .pdf file?

2023 Niro EV Owners Manual.pdf

No since I have the more basic display. I'll try to take a photo.

 

[TheAirman]

I realise that this forum is concerning the completely-new '23+ EV, but I'll just mention for information that the Kona EV (same electrically as the older model Niro EV) uses hydraulic brakes only for Auto Hold and the motor only for left-paddle-stop. The difference is more discernible on slopes as, when brakes are applied you can hear them release when you start off again. When the motor is used to hold position the take-off is silent. It would be interesting if Kia has taken a new path with this model.

On the '23, auto hold uses the pressure pump motor in the hydraulic brake master cylinder to hold the car at a stop. Release and drive away is silent.

If you sit for a while, or on a steep slope in auto hold, the electronic parking brake will come on and you can hear it. You also get a red warning. You can't drive away until you manually release the EPB by pressing the brake pedal.

 

[KiwiME]

Ok, so nothing has changed.

 

[KIA Forever]

This has been my experience with a 2023 SX HEV, with or without using the brake pedal to modulate the last few feet. However, the car must come to a full and complete stop before releasing the left paddle. Also, I think I read that this behavior does apply to pre-2023 Niros.

Works that way on my 2022 EV

 

[dblackfl]

Works that way on my 2022 EV

Does not work that way on my 2021 PHEV. It's the pre-2023 (P)HEVs that require the brake pedal to come to a full stop. The only time the car will "auto stop" (and go) without application of the brake pedal is via Smart Cruise Control. As of 2023 it appears all Niros can now fully stop using just the paddle.