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Hello! What mpg are you getting in the highway?
Curious as I saw a 17’ touring with 3k at 25,599... and I’m intrigued!
 

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My 2018 Touring Fuelly numbers are in my sig. The Touring has 18” rim/wheels so I don’t know how you’re finding a Touring with 17’s. I wish Kia did that since I liked that size on my Ford C-Max
 

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My 2018 Touring Fuelly numbers are in my sig. The Touring has 18” rim/wheels so I don’t know how you’re finding a Touring with 17’s. I wish Kia did that since I liked that size on my Ford C-Max[/QUOTE

It’s a 2017 Niro.
 

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Oh, a '17 Niro! I've averaged a bit over 52 mpg so far with 16,000 miles, but expect that to drop over this winter (bought end of Jan). I limit my speed to 65 mph and drive carefully for best mpg. It is a 2018 with 16" wheels. The models with 18" wheels get about 20% lower mpg. I think most owners with 16" wheels get high 40's or low 50's, at least the ones who actually calculate a running average.

Significant difference between summer and winter driving results. I had several thousand miles this summer with 59 mpg when temps were over 80. Currently at about 35 degrees, I'm getting 49/50. This happens with all cars and the percentage drop is similar at around 18-20% but in whole numbers it is larger than ordinary cars because the starting point is so high.
 

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My 17 Touring gets only highway miles, between 60 and 100 miles a day.

In the summer, I get around 48 mpg and in colder times, closer to 43 mpg.

Thats with my cruise control set to 62 mph.
 

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Averaged around 41 mpg with our 18 Touring in the summer/early fall, with > 90 % highway driving. Currently down to about 36 mpg with the colder weather and snow tires on the vehicle.
One of these days if I find a deal I would love to give it a whirl with some 16" wheels off of a base model Niro, just to see if there's any significant difference in mpg.
 

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All owner reports say you get a big hit with 18" wheels, and the EPA mpg ratings reflect the same. Change your wheels to save gas, no need to experiment. Since you have winter tires, another set of rims is justifiable.
 

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I’m pretty happy with my 2018 Touring mpg which you can see by my Fuelly sig. I like the feel of the larger wheels and the suspension is well tuned for them. The math on Fuelly is 2 to 3 mpg lower than the Kia computer tells me but I use numbers from my gas receipts so it is accurate and is a running average. Even tho I’m in SoCal I expect it to go down a bit since we’re in our cooler months as well. A bitter 60ish degrees :}=
 

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If you drive normally it will be under 40. If you drive like you have all day then it'll go up. 35 on the interstate at best.
 

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If you drive normally it will be under 40. If you drive like you have all day then it'll go up. 35 on the interstate at best.
And use your brakes as little as possible. Braking = wasted energy. If you must brake, try to keep it in the battery regeneration zone, don't press so hard that it uses the actual brakes. Plan for slowdowns far enough in advance that you can make use of as much the the car's momentum as possible. You spent gas getting up to speed, don't waste it all by slowing back down.
 

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And use your brakes as little as possible. Braking = wasted energy. If you must brake, try to keep it in the battery regeneration zone, don't press so hard that it uses the actual brakes. Plan for slowdowns far enough in advance that you can make use of as much the the car's momentum as possible. You spent gas getting up to speed, don't waste it all by slowing back down.
Breaking is NOT wasted energy in a hybrid. About 35% goes back into your battery pack. You are correct in lightly using the brakes because that activates the regen cycle without actually applying the brakes.
 

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Even your PHEV are not totally efficiant. The recharge cycle has quite a bit of waste in the recharging of the battery is producing heat that is energy waisted. You are loosing around 20-25% of the power that you put into the recharge cycle just to heat. Also, remember that there are loads of wasted energy in just driving the car from wind and rolling resistance. It is not a perfect world we live in.
 

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All owner reports say you get a big hit with 18" wheels, and the EPA mpg ratings reflect the same. Change your wheels to save gas, no need to experiment. Since you have winter tires, another set of rims is justifiable.
i've heard plenty of people speculate as to the difference between 16's and 18's, but I've never seen anyone show actual data. The EPA numbers are different, but there are more differences than just tire size between the Touring and lower trim levels. And while it's fun to talk about fuel economy, the reality is that it's hard to justify spending too much money even to go after a relatively large 10% gain in gas mileage. At 10k miles per year, and $2.50 gallon for gas, assuming 40 mpg we're spending $625 annually on gas. If we save 10% ($62.50), our 5 year savings is $312.5, which is a fraction of what another set of wheels and tires would cost.
Not sure how much the low rolling resistance 16's that come on the lower trim Niros save vs. a "normal" 16" tire, although I've heard some speculation that it's around 3%.

Anyway, if I find a screaming deal on some take-off Niro 16's I'll probably try them, but otherwise the ROI just isn't there unfortunately.
 

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ROI? You would be best off buying a seven year old ICE car. What is the ROI you have in purchasing the less efficient touring model? Care about the environment if not your pocketbook?

On a more practical matter, you will have to fill your tank about 15/20 percent sooner than I do. That is a lot of extra nuisance over the life of the car.
 

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If you drive normally it will be under 40. If you drive like you have all day then it'll go up. 35 on the interstate at best.
wow, that is terrible MPG. Are you driving 85MPH or something? I have the LX, but I cant imagine getting under 35MPG. When I am driving highway/interstate I'm normally between 62-70. Even in cold weather, if I'm driving interstate I always get 50MPG or better.
Are there any other mostly interstate drivers here? What's you're avearge speed, MPG, and % of tank driving highway/interstate?
 

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It looks to me it is going to be difficult getting 50 mpg driving 65 in 20 degree weather. Just managed 50 mpg on my last tank with an average temperature of maybe 35 degrees (about 40 miles in torrential rain). Same driving style in 80 degree weather got me 59 mpg.
 

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So far I am very happy with my 2018 Niro Touring Edition

I posted this on another thread but this is a better place for it. I will learn as I get more familiar with the Kia Forum
I live in a warmer location near College Station, Tx.
I have had my car 1 month a 2018 Niro Touring HEV bought it used with 10,820 miles on it
So far I had 3 fill ups. Filled at same station same pump each time using regular gas from Costco
90% eco driving 9% normal. very mixed driving city and highway. I let the pump click off 2 times and fill slowly.
Odo
10820 (Filled at dealership)
11131 311 5.464 US gal 56.92MPG
11594 463 9.122US gal 50.75MPG
12065 471 8.752US gal 53.82MPG
Average 53.83 MPG
I will continue to monitor every tank as I do with my other cars
I use Simply Auto app which is great for my car maint as well as all records I use it for my antique cars also
 
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