[FlNiro]

Yes check the heat exchanger. PLEASE tell us the results! Don't be one of the ones that never reports what the solution was. Thanks!

 

[FlNiro]

Yes the heat exchanger seems to becoming a common problem. Haven't heard back from the OP yet to see if that was his problem also?

 

[FlNiro]

Thanks for updating everyone. It helps others when people like yourself post the outcome. Thanks!

 

[FlNiro]

I remember reading something that the "assembly" is improved so hopefully it will last for you.

 

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Thanks to these posts you saved a young lady $2100. She is having this exact same issue with coolant leak as the result of a bad valve in the exhaust exchange recovery system. Once I looked up the Kia 10/100 warranty, I felt that her repair should be covered under the Federal Emissions section as mentioned above. After contacting her local dealer, they agreed to cover it though they said it was a "gray area". I don't know why it is a gray area when the description of the part starts with the word Exhaust. I don't know if they considered it one of the parts that they cover for 10/100 or for 8/80 but since she had 75K on her car it didn't matter. Thanks again to all who posted comments on this issue.

Thanks for letting us all know!!!! I like and enjoy this forum very much and you made me feel good that all our back and forth discussions helped somebody out.

 

[FlNiro]

This problem has been reported here several times on the early models like yours so a Kia dealer should be aware of it. I'm not sure what state your from but a lot of states go by the Ca. emissions warranty which has a longer period so check on that. I would do more homework here and other sites to see if anybody got covered by a "Goodwill" warranty. Good luck, keep trying.

 

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Hi Leanne, I'm definitely intrigued with the bypass idea. I might try that myself, as we are now losing a gallon of coolant a week! What size brass 90 degree fitting did he find works? How is your car heat working now, and is your engine coolant staying stable?

Pay attention to the other thread about blown head gasket. Be super careful driving your Niro while it's losing coolant, don't let it overheat and blow the head gasket.

 

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They should know about it, seems to be a common problem for a batch of 2017's

 

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Kia should make good since it's a known problem. I don't know how it works in Canada but here in the USA it should be fixed under the emissions warranty since like you say it's part of the catalytic converter. Also here in the US if your in Ca. or your state has adopted the Ca. emissions laws the warranty is extended even longer.

 

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Update on previous post Feb 13, 2023. The dealer service department has been given the go ahead by Kia to replace the unit (leaking Coolant) containing the Exhaust Heat Recovery Module and Catalytic Converter at no charge to me. This also includes no labour nor diagnostic charges to me. I am thankful for their decision to back up the warranty on their cars. It gives me confidence in their cars and in Kia. As a result of this experience I will seriously consider them again when it comes to a car purchase in the future. I can now look forward to driving my 2017 Niro trouble free, hopefully for years to come.

Excellent and glad to hear this. I think you have a good dealer also which helps a lot. To the other people that are having this trouble you should print out this thread and others having to do with this problem and take it to your GENERAL manager at your dealership and ask them why their service dept. doesn't have a clue how to service a Niro when other dealers clearly do.

 

[FlNiro]

If you have documentation to prove you complained about this problem before the warranty ran out and think it was mis diagnosed I think you have good standing with Kia. Also since it's part of the catalytic converter it should be covered under the emissions warranty. And if your state is Ca. or goes by the Ca. emissions standards the warranty is even longer. I would really look into this and tell them they can deal with you or your lawyer.

 

[FlNiro]

As long as your coolant stays the same in the plastic bottle you should be good. If you see it gets low or empty in the plastic bottle then you have a problem. Don't drive the car if it's low on coolant, if it runs out of coolant the car may suddenly overheat and then you have a BIG problem.

 

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My 2019 Niro has been giving me coolant issues, was fixed number of times and now has a dead engine instead of the head gasket issue that was thought. Beware!

If it was fixed a number of times you maybe in "Lemon Law" territory

 

[FlNiro]

I would tell you this: First the repair should be covered under the EMMISIONS warranty since it has to due with the exhaust and the failed part is part of the exhaust system which is figured in to the gas mileage figures for the car. Kia basically tells the government that this part warms up the car quicker so this allows the car to achieve x number miles per gallon. So it should be covered under the federal emissions warranty. I don't know what state your in but if your in Ca. or a state that has adopted the Ca. emissions warranty the coverage is even longer. You should check all this stuff out so your informed when you talk to the dealer. If all else fails you might have to consult with a lemon lawyer.

 

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i will surely let you know. I have been denied help twice and will continue to fight. But I’ll likely stick with Toyotas from now on!

Kia Management!!!! This is your problem

 

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We had engine warning, and found coolant leak in Niro 2017, and the local garage cannot locate the leak. We took it to dealer and they have identified there is leak in the R+R EGR valve. Dealer says to replace the EGR valve and heat exchanger costs $4157. There is no warranty after 60k miles. I was wondering if i can do this work in local garage for a lot less. Any ideas. Thanks, we live in NJ

If your talking about a leak in the coolant recovery system that's located with the catalytic converter, that should be covered by the emissions warranty since it is part of the catalytic converter. Also I'm pretty sure NJ. is a state that goes by the Ca. emissions standard and that has an even longer warranty.

 

[FlNiro]

If you got the platinum warranty that I have basically the whole car is covered with few exceptions. Plus it's an exhaust part that covered by the emissions warranty and if your state is part of the Ca. emissions the warranty is even longer than what Kia gives you. You need to research this.

 

[FlNiro]

That's exactly why it's covered under the emissions warranty. It's part of the catalytic converter.

 

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One comment about the emissions warranty. The law allows the manufacturer the ability to be extremely specific about the covered items. One example: VW would not include the Urea injection system under the emissions warranty coverage, and the EPA allowed them to. That system was critical for the engine to meet emissions requirements (we won't go into how VW gamed the system for that) but they were able to not cover it under the emissions part of the warranty. That meant only the base warranty coverage applied to the part, and problems with the system generally didn't occur until coverage had expired. No, it didn't make any sense that it wasn't covered under the emissions warranty, but that's the way it was. Kia might be making the same argument here that it's technically part of the exhaust, not the emissions system. Depending on what the EPA permitted Kia to list under the warranty, that might be what's happening here.

This is what makes lawyers rich.

 

[FlNiro]

Thanks everyone, for all of the great information on this thread. My 2017 Kia Niro heat stopped working and due to this thread I found that I had low coolant and made an appointment with the dealership. They told me that the coolant was leaking into the catalytic converter AND said they were contacting their warranty department to get the $3500 repair covered. I'm not the original owner of the car, which has 75k miles on it so I was surprised and relieved that they offered warranty without me having to fight for it.

That's good they getting it covered for you. Please keep us updated with how it goes.