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I like the creep, actually. Probably because I'm used to non-HEV cars, and that's what they do. Moving in or out of my garage, parking, etc., I think it comes in handy.
I've only owned manual transmission cars previously so difficult to see any advantage from prior habits. But either way, wouldn't it be good to give the owner the choice of creep or not to creep?
 
I would agree "creep" is a nice safety function to have in a car. This comes in handy especially when putting the car in a garage where you are properly placing it in position only a matter of a couple of feet from the garage wall. Comes in handy parallel parking it tough places to get into. I wouldn't want to be without it.

Others may have completely different opinions based on their driving habits and maybe a creep function on/off switch would satisfy their driving preferences.
 
I've only owned manual transmission cars previously so difficult to see any advantage from prior habits. But either way, wouldn't it be good to give the owner the choice of creep or not to creep?
Sure, why not, if it's possible. But with 95% +/- cars being combustion engined automatic transmission, most are accustomed to having it. My other car is a Mercedes E450, and it has very little creep, so pulling it into the garage is much more difficult than the Niro, which creeps nicely: Applying enough power with the accelerator to get over the "hump" into the garage, then quickly applying the brake, back and forth, is more difficult than the Niro.
 
In my garage, it is pretty awkward to hit the mark - I have a tennis ball hanging from the ceiling - which I put up for the Niro because of the awkwardness. It only takes the lightest of touches on the brake to come to a complete stop, and impossible to balance the brake with the creep to move two inches. So my timing has to be perfect. It's not, so I usually have to settle for a few inches outside the optimal zone except when I'm lucky. Was never an issue with my manual transmission cars. Likely wouldn't have been an issue with automatic equipped cars I have driven (but not owned). Their creep function was much stronger than the Niro, so brake balancing to move a couple inches was not a problem.
 
In my garage, it is pretty awkward to hit the mark - I have a tennis ball hanging from the ceiling - which I put up for the Niro because of the awkwardness. It only takes the lightest of touches on the brake to come to a complete stop, and impossible to balance the brake with the creep to move two inches. So my timing has to be perfect. It's not, so I usually have to settle for a few inches outside the optimal zone except when I'm lucky. Was never an issue with my manual transmission cars. Likely wouldn't have been an issue with automatic equipped cars I have driven (but not owned). Their creep function was much stronger than the Niro, so brake balancing to move a couple inches was not a problem.
Really? With my Niro (it's in HEV) I can creep an inch at a time if I want to, probably less than that. I have little "stop signs" on posts in front of my cars as a stop indicator, and can pull in to just touch it, or back up just a tiny bit. That was the case with pretty much all my cars (all previous autos, and my Niro).
 
Really? With my Niro (it's in HEV) I can creep an inch at a time if I want to, probably less than that. I have little "stop signs" on posts in front of my cars as a stop indicator, and can pull in to just touch it, or back up just a tiny bit. That was the case with pretty much all my cars (all previous autos, and my Niro).
I understand what yticolev is referring to. When you release the brake, there's a slight pause before the creep begins. I concur that moving a matter of inches takes a touch. I also understand why others prefer it. My preference would be a user setting to turn it on/off as you can in a Tesla. Then everyone gets what they want.
 
I'm with @Signet7, for me creep is easy to modulate. I can pull into my garage and control the creep speed from basically 0 to 5mph with gentle brake pressure. Yeah, if you actually come to stop it will take a beat to pick up again but you don't have to completely release the brake to get it going again. Heck if you stop short in a manual transmission you have to feather the clutch to get going again. This is my first DCT, first hybrid and one of the few non-manuals I've ever owned and I think it's pretty ok. Now, I don't now if the creep is slightly different between HEV and PHEV, but in my plug-in it works well. Way better than early BMW DCTs. Obviously the addition of the electric motor makes creep much easier since it can generate torque at 0 RPM.
 
Alex on Autos just posted a review of the 2020 Ioniq. Not quite up to his usual standards, but I'm posting because of the list of trims. So you are right NearZero, to get the smart (adaptive) cruise control and even AEB, it requires going up two trim levels and $5,000. Which also requires getting the larger less efficient wheels. I might be wrong, but it looks like they have really repositioned the marketing on this car since the 2017/18 models. I really hate the new infotainment system as well. Ugly and capacitive touch buttons instead of real buttons. Paddles that control either gear shift or regen depending on which mode you are in are a small plus - usually the Niro will have the same features so I hope you get those.
 
I like the creep, actually. Probably because I'm used to non-HEV cars, and that's what they do. Moving in or out of my garage, parking, etc., I think it comes in handy.
I like the creep too, seems pretty normal to me. Most every previous cars (all ICE)I have owned has had this.
Now have 4,600 on my PHEV, have yet to notice any jerkiness in tranny. Maybe I'm just numb :sleep:
 
In the US, buyer can expect to get a huge discount on 2019 so LX will cost far less than $20k [in the US]. DCT Hyundai and Kia used on many vehicles such as my son's Veloster works perfectly find and reliable. 2012 Veloster now has about 130K and survived two boys from HS to college without a single problem. Hence I didn't hesitate Niro over Prius which I had cross shopped. slight "jerking" is a characteristic of all DCT even on 2015 $120k [when new] 911S4. Niro DCT starts in electric mode first and far less noticeable than a comparable ICE vehicle with DCT. with current gas price so low, anyone looking for fuel efficient vehicles should get a huge discount. matter a fact with the lock down, it's perfect time to buy a vehicle which my son will be doing in coming weeks to replace his Veloster.
 
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